A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
Isis (not verified)
Innocence?
Mon, 2012/06/18 - 22:53You have made up your mind regarding this man. Please keep in touch and let us know how you feel emotionally and financially in 6 months to a year.
Salaam
Anonymous (not verified)
Thankyou, I will, but why
Wed, 2012/06/20 - 11:15Thankyou, I will, but why won't Khalid remove the comment? It was made by someone who should not have used me as a subject for their article, and I am very angry. So please, for the sake of the family, remove their names, they are innocent of any of this shit!
Anonymous (not verified)
Is this Rubbish or not? - Sex after death Laws in Egypt
Thu, 2012/06/14 - 08:40The truth or lies? More propaganda? Who would benefit if this was to lies? What if it actually is the truth?
http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/25/210198.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Egypts-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-DEAD-wives-branded-completely-false.html
Egypt’s National Council for Women (NCW) has appealed to the Islamist-dominated parliament not to approve two controversial laws on the minimum age of marriage and allowing a husband to have sex with his dead wife within six hours of her death according to a report in an Egyptian newspaper.
The appeal came in a message sent by Dr. Mervat al-Talawi, head of the NCW, to the Egyptian People’s Assembly Speaker, Dr. Saad al-Katatni, addressing the woes of Egyptian women, especially after the popular uprising that toppled president Hosni Mubarak in February 2011.
She was referring to two laws: one that would legalize the marriage of girls starting from the age of 14 and the other that permits a husband to have sex with his dead wife within the six hours following her death.
According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included an appeal to parliament to avoid the controversial legislations that rid women of their rights of getting education and employment, under alleged religious interpretations.
“Talawi tried to underline in her message that marginalizing and undermining the status of women in future development plans would undoubtedly negatively affect the country’s human development, simply because women represent half the population,” Abdul Samea said in his article.
The controversy about a husband having sex with his dead wife came about after a Moroccan cleric spoke about the issue in May 2011.
Zamzami Abdul Bari said that marriage remains valid even after death adding that a woman also too had the same right to engage in sex with her dead husband.
Two years ago, Zamzami incited further controversy in Morocco when he said it was permissible for pregnant women to drink alcohol.
But it seems his view on partners having sex with their deceased partners has found its way to Egypt one year on.
Egyptian prominent journalist and TV anchor Jaber al-Qarmouty on Tuesday referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show on Egyptian ON TV and criticized the whole notion of “permitting a husband to have sex with his wife after her death under a so-called ‘Farewell Intercourse’ draft law.”
“This is very serious. Could the panel that will draft the Egyptian constitution possibly discuss such issues? Did Abdul Samea see by his own eyes the text of the message sent by Talawi to Katatni? This is unbelievable. It is a catastrophe to give the husband such a right! Has the Islamic trend reached that far? Is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?”
Many members of the newly-elected, and majority Islamist parliament, have been accused of launching attacks against women’s rights in the country.
They wish to cancel many, if not most, of the laws that promote women’s rights, most notably a law that allows a wife to obtain a divorce without obstructions from her partner. The implementation of the Islamic right to divorce law, also known as the Khula, ended years of hardship and legal battles women would have to endure when trying to obtain a divorce.
Egyptian law grants men the right to terminate a marriage, but grants women the opportunity to end an unhappy or abusive marriages without the obstruction of their partner. Prior to the implementation of the Khula over a decade ago, it could take 10 to 15 years for a woman to be granted a divorce by the courts.
Islamist members of Egyptian parliament, however, accuse these laws of “aiming to destroy families” and have said it was passed to please the former first lady of the fallen regime, Suzanne Mubarak, who devoted much of her attention to the issues of granting the women all her rights.
The parliamentary attacks on women’s rights has drawn great criticism from women’s organizations, who dismissed the calls and accused the MPs of wishing to destroy the little gains Egyptian women attained after long years of organized struggle.
Khalid
Stop spreading lies
Thu, 2012/06/14 - 09:34There was no necrophilia law discussed at all.
This is a blatant lie started by a Mubarak loyalist, and propagated by tabloids like the Daily Mail.
Detailed rebuttal of alleged necrophilia law in Egypt
Anonymous (not verified)
Please remove the comment on
Tue, 2012/06/26 - 05:42Please remove the comment on page 59 regarding Hany Fawzy and his family. This comment was made by a troll, who took my details and posted them, twisting everything into lies. Khlaid, I have emailed you, sent you many messages on facebook, and you keep ignoring me. I want to see that comment and any regarding this man, taken off. The posts were lies, the women were bullshitters of the biggest variety, and with what is happening in Egypt now, this could damage any future work he has. So, please, remove the comments!!!!
Anonymous (not verified)
to Khalid
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 06:43On page 60 you commented something about the difference between Central Security Forces and Military Polices uniforms, can you, please, tell me if khaki color is just of the Police? because "my thief" had khaki uniform and always claimed that is military investigator belongs to the Military Force.
Thanku, Khalid
Khalid
Military vs. Police uniform
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 09:28The Central Security Forces always wear black, be they career officers or conscripts. Of course in summer it would be half sleeve and lighter fabric.
Army wears khaki or brownish greenish camouflage. If he is Military polive then he would wear a red beret or red helmet. If he is not Military police then a khaki beret would do.
The navy, normally in Alexandria have blue or white uniforms.
So khaki would consistent with army. But if he is a military investigator, then he would be in civilian clothes most of the time. They are called tahareyat تحريات
His military ID card would say which branch he is in and which rank.
Anonymous (not verified)
To Khalid
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 12:24Khalid, thank you very much, the guy was 2 years ago military investigator (Captain, maybe now Major), i have seen him wearing a khaki uniform, with each 3 yellow stars. He goes at work in civillian clothes, but i have seen him one time with khaki uniform, with khaki ranks, with 3 embroided yellow stars, but nothing on the head. One 7-8 seats minibus transports him to and from the work. I guess he works in Heliopolis, but i preffer that other details we talk private, at the yahoo! adress you know.
Thank you very much again, Khalid
Khalid
Officer then
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 13:43OK, then he is an officer and not a conscripted soldier. My earlier comments assumed that he is a soldier, from what you said, and therefore just doing military draft duty.
A 3 star rank is a naqeeb نقيب which would be equivalent to captain in the west.
If he is an officer, he may be entitled to carry a gun, contrary to soldiers who should never take weapons home. Not sure if hand guns are standard issue to some officers or not. Someone else would know these details.
Yes, minibuses are standard transportation for officers.
However, two details do not add up:
- The fact that he is an intelligence type job AND married to a foreigner. This is totally odd. Normally the military frowns on marriage to foreigners, and give officers a very hard time if they go that path. I imagine he would be at least moved to other less sensitive branches, and not remain in intelligence.
- The fact that he was "recalled", as per your earlier message. If he is just doing military duty, it would be odd to reach the rank of captian. He would be a one or two star officer (lieutenant).
Anonymous (not verified)
to khalid
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 14:14he is married to an Egyptian teacher and have 2 kids, not married with any foreigner, but I discovered this "detail" later when he talked about marriage with me(me, I am foreign), it was just a scam to snatch my money, though said that he will obtain approval from the Army but difficult and anyway, not before to pay his huge debt he "have" to the Army; I helped him pay but, of course, he had no debt to any bank, to any Army, and he was not in any danger of being put in jail for failing to pay their debts as he said; that time, he played the ideea to buy an chineese wife with 10.000 egyptian pounds as other officers did it....sll these details came to me so late.
thanks, Khalid
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