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By Khalid on 2005/10/08 - 16:25, last updated 2005/10/08 - 17:15

Many countries have some form of compulsory Army service for a certain period, including Netherlands, Israel, Turkey, Egypt and others. In Egypt, service in the army was compulsory for most of the 20th century. It is restricted to males 18 years to 35 years who do have another male brother, and is physically and mentally fit. Those who study can have a temporary reprieve until they finish their study, to a maximum of 24 or so. The duration of the service varies from 1 year (plus 3 months training) for university graduates, to 3 years for those with only elementary education. Before 1952, service could be avoided if one paid a large sum of money to the government. After 1952, and in the name of equality, this practice was abolished, and every eligible person had to serve. On the face of it, service in the army makes a young youth ready for combat if need be, teaches him to be adaptable, resourceful and tough. Reality is much different though. The army in Egypt, just like many other countries, is the culmination of bureaucracy, favoritism, nepotism, cronyism, corruption. All of these are rampant in the government, but more so in the army.The reasons for this are plenty. Those who serve in the army are two types: the recruits forced to serve before they can hold a job, or  travel abroad, and career staff. The career staff are two classes, the higher rank army officers (Second Lieutenant to General), and the lower rank (Private, Sargeant, ...etc.). The officers are either from a technical background (medicine, engineering, ...etc.) graduating from normal technical colleges, or of military disciplines, graduating from specialized military academies. Most join the army because it is a guaranteed government job that pays a relatively good salary and pension, and comes with many perks, such as use of army clubs, percieved social status, ...etc.. The lower rank officers are mostly people from lower social levels who have no education and join the Army because it is the only hope they have for a paying job. This is true in most armies of the world, including Canada, UK, USA and others. These lower rank officers can later go up to the first few ranks of officers, but are often derogatorily called ضابط مخلة (Dufflebag Officer), because they joined the armies as private rank soldiers.Many of the permanent  staff, specially the lower rank ones, disdain the temporary recruits, envying them for having education and better job prospects. They therefore use all the tricks to make their life miserable for the duration they are in the army. Some get the sick feeling of pleasure from the misery of others. Some feel satisfaction from being able to humilate a medical doctor or an engineer. Most of this is allowed in the name of teaching discipline and absolute obedience. Others use their position and influence as a secondary source of income. For example, they would agree to give recruits extra vacation days in return for a bribe. Some of these recruits, most likely farmers with no education at all, need the vacations because they have married early and have a family to support, so they need the vacation to work.Those lucky recruits with connections can practically spend the whole duration at home, with all the paper work arranged to make them look like they have been "sent on a mission" or "on loan" to some other unit. This is reminiscent of George W Bush national guard service during the Vietnam War era, but on a larger scale.Those with no connections, and no money for bribes can only watch how cruel real life is  ... So, the army is mostly a demoralizing experience for those forced to do the compulsory service. Some reverse wisdom can be seen in proverbs and saying that are famous in the army such as:

  • "Injustice to all is justice!" الظلم لما يعم يبقى عدل This is told by officers when recruits complain of some situation. The response is to apply injustice to everyone, then it becomes justice. Of course, not even this twisted logic is true, given the bribes and favoritism that are widely practiced.
  • "In the army, you have to find a way"الجيش قال لك اتصرف. This used to mean resourcefulness, and making do with what you have. However it gradually evolved into "the ends justify the means", such as bribes.
  • "Talk only about yourself" اتكلم عن نفسك بس. A rebellion in the army is a big disaster to the chain of command. A mutiny used to be punishable by death (e.g. Fletcher Christian and the Mutiny on the Bounty). Hence, the army always do not want any kind of groups forming under any circumstances.

Of course, the Egyptian army is up to the challenge in the battlefield, no doubts about that. However, the compulsory draft system is absolutely useless, and is a remnant from another age.

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Masha (not verified)

military services

Mon, 2007/04/16 - 18:11

This will be no comment, but a question;
What is true about the new law, that egyptians , married to foreign women don`t have to do their military services. And is there a difference between the law and the fullfilling of this law in praxis?

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Khalid

Maybe

Mon, 2007/04/16 - 18:31

I know that if someone has a non-Egyptian mother, he cannot do the service as an officer, but has to go in as a private only.I remember something about those married to non-Egyptians, but can't recall if it is full exemption, or just serving as a soldier.Better check with up to date sources inside Egypt. -- Khalid Baheyeldin

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Anonymous (not verified)

can you pls tell me what will

Mon, 2010/03/29 - 17:32

can you pls tell me what will happen with an egyptian man of 26years who has until now escaped the army service, and still is hiding in luxor trying to hide and reach the age of 30
He also is considering to marry any american woman to avoid entering into the army.

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Anonymous (not verified)

im english and my husband is

Tue, 2007/05/08 - 13:11

im english and my husband is egyptian, we married last yr in egypt. we have been told that this law no longer exists and he has been told he must go in the army to do his compulsory service on a date in may 2007. this is all i know. i have been tols i must wiat here in england until he has completed his service. p.s dont trust anyone offering to get any man out of the army for a money!!! they will just take ur money!!!

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Anonymous (not verified)

Hi, can you tell me who told

Mon, 2007/05/14 - 09:17

Hi, can you tell me who told you that your husband has to go into the army, i am getting married in cairo in june and am trying to find out the same information and am drawing a blank

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Eva tyler (not verified)

Compulsory army

Sun, 2018/11/11 - 14:25

I'm British married to egyptian man. He lives in Egypt I live in UK. He is now 29 with three other brothers and has never served in the army.

I think he is running away from it he keeps changing jobs and moving around. We do not live together as husband and wife, we never have.

But if he goes to the army things could be better.

Is there anyway I can find out if he needs to go or not? we can't keep living like this we are married in the embassy.

I want to know how to contact millatery head quarters to find out if my
husband is exempt from army.

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Khalid

You may have been scammed ...

Sun, 2018/11/11 - 14:55

Eva,

You may be a victim of a romance scam. If you met your 'husband' when you were on vacation, and he was a worker at a tourists resort, then it is mostly likely the case that he has married you to live off your money. He may have asked for money to buy an apartment, or for his mother's cancer treatment, or to start a business, ...etc.

Read about the horror stories here: Warning to female tourists thinking of marrying Egyptians

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Anonymous (not verified)

army exemption

Mon, 2007/05/14 - 09:03

Can someone please confirm if an egyptian guy is exempt from the army, if he marries a british national, and applies for a resident visa?

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Anonymous (not verified)

Necessary

Sat, 2007/09/15 - 06:03

According to the law being married to a foreigner "does not necessary mean" that someone can avoid military service. The decision might be arbitrary.

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Anonymous (not verified)

an egyptian man is not

Sun, 2007/09/23 - 15:51

an egyptian man is not exempt from the army even if he is married to a non egyptian the laws i think changed and this fact doesnt change the fact that ur man might be entering the military. I know this because my husband is likely going to be drafted and i will have to wait for him.

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