Notes on Compulsory Army Service in Egypt

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Many countries have some form of compulsory Army service for a certain period, including Netherlands, Israel, Turkey, Egypt and others. In Egypt, service in the army was compulsory for most of the 20th century. It is restricted to males 18 years to 35 years who do have another male brother, and is physically and mentally fit. Those who study can have a temporary reprieve until they finish their study, to a maximum of 24 or so. The duration of the service varies from 1 year (plus 3 months training) for university graduates, to 3 years for those with only elementary education. Before 1952, service could be avoided if one paid a large sum of money to the government. After 1952, and in the name of equality, this practice was abolished, and every eligible person had to serve. On the face of it, service in the army makes a young youth ready for combat if need be, teaches him to be adaptable, resourceful and tough. Reality is much different though. The army in Egypt, just like many other countries, is the culmination of bureaucracy, favoritism, nepotism, cronyism, corruption. All of these are rampant in the government, but more so in the army.The reasons for this are plenty. Those who serve in the army are two types: the recruits forced to serve before they can hold a job, or  travel abroad, and career staff. The career staff are two classes, the higher rank army officers (Second Lieutenant to General), and the lower rank (Private, Sargeant, ...etc.). The officers are either from a technical background (medicine, engineering, ...etc.) graduating from normal technical colleges, or of military disciplines, graduating from specialized military academies. Most join the army because it is a guaranteed government job that pays a relatively good salary and pension, and comes with many perks, such as use of army clubs, percieved social status, ...etc.. The lower rank officers are mostly people from lower social levels who have no education and join the Army because it is the only hope they have for a paying job. This is true in most armies of the world, including Canada, UK, USA and others. These lower rank officers can later go up to the first few ranks of officers, but are often derogatorily called ضابط مخلة (Dufflebag Officer), because they joined the armies as private rank soldiers.Many of the permanent  staff, specially the lower rank ones, disdain the temporary recruits, envying them for having education and better job prospects. They therefore use all the tricks to make their life miserable for the duration they are in the army. Some get the sick feeling of pleasure from the misery of others. Some feel satisfaction from being able to humilate a medical doctor or an engineer. Most of this is allowed in the name of teaching discipline and absolute obedience. Others use their position and influence as a secondary source of income. For example, they would agree to give recruits extra vacation days in return for a bribe. Some of these recruits, most likely farmers with no education at all, need the vacations because they have married early and have a family to support, so they need the vacation to work.Those lucky recruits with connections can practically spend the whole duration at home, with all the paper work arranged to make them look like they have been "sent on a mission" or "on loan" to some other unit. This is reminiscent of George W Bush national guard service during the Vietnam War era, but on a larger scale.Those with no connections, and no money for bribes can only watch how cruel real life is  ... So, the army is mostly a demoralizing experience for those forced to do the compulsory service. Some reverse wisdom can be seen in proverbs and saying that are famous in the army such as:

  • "Injustice to all is justice!" الظلم لما يعم يبقى عدل This is told by officers when recruits complain of some situation. The response is to apply injustice to everyone, then it becomes justice. Of course, not even this twisted logic is true, given the bribes and favoritism that are widely practiced.
  • "In the army, you have to find a way"الجيش قال لك اتصرف. This used to mean resourcefulness, and making do with what you have. However it gradually evolved into "the ends justify the means", such as bribes.
  • "Talk only about yourself" اتكلم عن نفسك بس. A rebellion in the army is a big disaster to the chain of command. A mutiny used to be punishable by death (e.g. Fletcher Christian and the Mutiny on the Bounty). Hence, the army always do not want any kind of groups forming under any circumstances.

Of course, the Egyptian army is up to the challenge in the battlefield, no doubts about that. However, the compulsory draft system is absolutely useless, and is a remnant from another age.

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Is it truth or not?Somebody help me please!

Please help me to make sure is it truth or not?My boyfriend is Egyptian Doctor-dentist.He is almost 23 years old. He graduated from University two years ago and now only he was under tests in the army. He said that he has been already tested,and they confirmed that he can enter the army but still its unknown for which period but the date of his entrance has already known it is gonna happen in the middle of July.According to him the period verify from 1 to 3 years.Can you please confirm his words or its a complete lie?Thank you so much for help!

army time

hey.. my bf went into the army last yr.. just finished. he did not know how long he was to be in for,until basically when he went......and yes if the army so chooses they ccan get them to stay for 3yrs if they think they are officer material.....Its a hard long time.. be patient.. it will pass........good luck.

israel

Whats the deal if you are a egyptian male married to a Israeli woman?

Court order

There is a new court ruling that instructs the government to strip such men of their Egyptian citizenship if they are married to Israeli. Details (in Arabic) is on Al Jazeera.

There is some reaction from such a case, a man living in Israel, and you can read it on the Jerusalem Post.

As for service in the army, I think the Egyptian army will do its best not to accept such cases for services. How, and what details, I cannot tell.

Why wouldn't they accept

Why wouldn't they accept them? They are still Egyptian men.

Flat Feet

My cousin has flat feet. I was wondering if the Egyptian military takes men with flat feet ?

My Egyptian Boyfriend won't marry me

Hi, I would like to ask something. hope someone can help me

I am a foreign girl from Costa Rica, my country does not even have an army so I can't be taken as a spy I guess. I have an Egyptian boyfriend who is 25, he is an engineer, we fell in love and we wanted to get married but apparently its impossible for him because his brother works in the army and there will be consequences for him if my boyfriend married me.. as far as he told me his brother wouldn't be able to get promoted or something like this...

Can someone explain the situation to me? and if possible some solutions

Hey, I have type 1 diabetes,

Hey,

I have type 1 diabetes, but am Egyptian. I have an older brother who will likely go to the military after finishing his studies. Will I also have to go to the military despite my diabetes?

Thanks.

army service

i'm 22 egyptain man and i'm married to an american woman for a year now and i don't know what is my case or situation about serving in the army . if someone can help me that would be great .. thx

high rank military officer marring a foreign women

I would like if posible to have some legal advice. Me and my boyfriend met while serving for an intenational organism, and we have been together for a few years, he is a high rank professional military and apparently is almost impossible for him to get the authorization to marry a foreign women. In fact is not important for me at all marriage but due to religious motives for him and his familly it is. He has a first weading with an egypcian women, and she denounce us to inteligent services and he has been since then under investigation. Every time I go to Egypt immediatly the pression starts on him, Threatening him to go to jail and ultimatly to loose it's job if he doesn't end up with me. And permanently advising him to return to his previous marriage. We have been for a while looking for a legal solution that doesn't put him in jail or loose is job to stay with me, is it possible? Could you give me some contact of someone you might know specialist in this type of cases or the right procedure to follow in this cases?

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