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Did J.K. Rowling borrow heavily from J.R.R. Tolkien?

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By Khalid on 2004/06/05 - 23:40, last updated 2004/08/01 - 14:18

Is it just me, or did someone else notice?

Initially, after seeing "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer Stone", and "The Fellowship of the Ring", I thought there are too many similarities between them to be coincidental.

After seeing "The Chamber of Secrets", and reading a bit about "The Prisoner of Azkaban", I saw "Lord of the Rings" trilogy again at home on DVD.

I thought that there was a lot of borrowing that J.K. Rowling did from J.R.R. Tolkien.

Let us see a list of similarities:

Similarity Lord of the Rings Harry Potter
Villian Sauron is the head of evil. He lost his power, and needs the ring to gain it all back Voldemort is also a vanquished evil wizard. He needs the Sorcerer's Stone in order to gain his strength back
Unlikely Hero Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit, a peaceful -- almost childish -- and weak race. He is entrusted with the task of saving the world from great evil Harry is an 11 year orphan who does much the same
Special Object The One Ring is the object that the hero must prevent the villian from getting, so as to regain his full powers The Sorcerer's Stone is the same
Mentor/Protector Gandalf is a guiding, helping, mentoring, teaching figure for Frodo Professor Dumbledore is the same in the Harry Potter series
Troll In the Fellowship of the Ring, the Orcs have a Cave Troll with them, and in The Two Towers, the Cave Trolls open the gates of Mordor In Harry Potter II, there is a Mountain Troll, whom Harry and his friends have to overpower
Giant Spider Shelob is a giant spider that almost kills and eats Frodo, in The Return of the King In the forest, there is a talking spider. It is a friend of Hagred, but chases Harry wanting to eat him
Giant raptor bird A giant eagle saves Gandalf from Isengard In the Prisoner of Azkaban, Buckbeak is a giant raptor helping Harry and friends
Dragon In the Hobbit, the prelude to The Lord of the Rings, the dragon Smaug is Bilbo Baggins adversary In Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets, there is a dragon like reptilian monster, the Basilisk, whom Harry has to slay
Goblins The goblins are one of the races of evil allying with Sauron and Saruman There are goblins who run the bank. They are physically similar to the other ones, although mostly benign
Sidekick "Creature" In Lord of the Ring, Gollum is a creature with both dual good and evil personalities. He helps Frodo in his quest Dobby is a house elf who is both a hinderance and helpful at different times

Of course, J.K. Rowling has a lot of original ideas of her own, such as the concept of muggles, and the game of Quiddich.

My opinion is that she borrowed too many themes to be a coincidence. For sure she was "inspired" by Tolkien's Lord of the Ring, at least partially.

After writing this page, I found the following links that ponder some of the points above:

  • "Stone" and "Ring" look like 2 pages out of Same Spell-book
  • Wikipedia article has a brief mention of similarities.
  • A web page listing the similarities between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings going into character details.
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Anonymous (not verified)

WORD. I agree with every

Mon, 2011/10/10 - 14:10

WORD. I agree with every single thing you said there. People are fighting instead of just letting other people like what they want and mind their own business. Why can't we just let others be and enjoy whatever we enjoy? People just have to find a fault with everything...

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Anonymous (not verified)

I'm sorry but this is one of

Mon, 2007/07/23 - 05:01

I'm sorry but this is one of the dumbest arguments I have ever read. I don't even think you should have been allowed to post this considering it is quite obvious you never even read the books. I would be willing to bet everything I own that these were the only two fantasies you have ever seen or read. Go read any single fantasy novel in existence with wizards and such. If you consider what Rowling did to be copying from Tolkien, then you will be shocked to find that in your opinion, every author that has ever written a fantasy novel copied from every other author that came before them.

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Anonymous (not verified)

i think the writer of the

Sat, 2007/09/22 - 20:04

i think the writer of the above argument is a damn fool who does not know what he is talking about.

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Khalid

Name calling is easy

Sat, 2007/09/22 - 22:19

It is easier to go about name calling, than to articulate a coherent argument with valid points.
--
Khalid Baheyeldin

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Anonymous (not verified)

omg I NOTICED IT

Sat, 2007/10/27 - 23:05

omg I NOTICED IT TOO!!!!!
woot go you!

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Anonymous (not verified)

Let Me Also Point Out Some Other Similarities

Tue, 2010/08/31 - 02:57

YESS!!! Don't get me wrong, i think J.K. Rowling is a wonderful and intrigueing writer, and I am currently reading and OBSESSED with the Harry Potter series(I'm sort-of nearly finished Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince-AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGHHHHHH!!!!I'M SOOOOOOOOOOOOO EXCITED ABOUT THE FIRST PART OF HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS!!!!!!!!!WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!?!?!). Anyway, here are a few similarities that I have noticed between Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter:

-The two mischievous and hilarious red-head twins, Mary and Pippin, from Lord of the Rings, and the two mischievous and hilarious red-head twins, Fred and George, from Harry Potter. Both sets of twins play constant pranks with eachother.

-And the main characters' -who are both black-haired, by the way- ,have best friends who are both red-heads. BY THE WAY, I AM JUST SEEING THIS IN THE MOVIES, IT MAY NOT BE THE CASE IN THE LORD OF THE RINGS BOOKS-I HAVN'T READ THEM...YET...

By the way, has anyone noticed that J.K. Rowling describes African or part African or African-Anglo people as "black"????? This, for me, lessens the quality of the series. Ithhink she could have used other words to describe people of African ethnicity. I hope someone has said this to her. =(

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Cari (not verified)

Spelling

Mon, 2010/09/13 - 02:01

Its M-E-R-R-Y.

Sorry, it bugged me.

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Anonymous xavia (not verified)

nothing is original

Fri, 2008/01/25 - 01:49

Pretty much all of the 'characters' described in the table are mythological creatures which occur not only in Tolkien's works, but in a vast array of other fantasy novels as well. For example, Gandalf and Dumbledore are just two stereotypical and traditional representation of the wizard. The word wizard is derived from the word 'wise', so it is not exactly strange that these particular figures act as mentors to a younger generation. Characters such as these occur also in many other books such as a the 'Earthsea' series by Ursula Le Guin. However, it seems that many people base their opinions on a very limited range of fantasy books. For this reason i will point out a character who is probably one of the best known wizards of all time. Ever heard of Merlin? There are many, many authors out there who's leading figures are similar. It is unfortunate to see that we live in a rather vindictive society, with individuals who seethe in the success of others. People are constantly trying to challenge popular culture and what they don't realise is that there is a whole mob of other non-conformists out there doing exactly what they are. Irony much? I think so. Maybe it is just one of many of the human flaws that is stopping us from accepting the fact that we are not all equal. Some people are bound to excell to greater hights than others in a variety of fields, be it writing or any other art form. As for the giant spiders, the goblins, the dragons, the unlikely hero and the Villian... well these are just conventional features and creatures who's origins lay in the myth and legends that long surpass the existence of any modern fantasy story. It is time to realise that the similarities between different novels enable us to classify them into a genre. Without these, the genre of fantasy could not exist. It seems in any case, that the differences and details of a novel are the things that allow us to judge it, love it or hate it.

And by the way, if you want to convey a convincing argument, it might be good if your audience thinks you know what you are on about. You really must be an inexperienced reader, or maybe you just can't spell. Either way, these don't credit the cause. It's Hagrid, not Hagred. Read up my friend, you have much to learn.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Just read HP 7...

Fri, 2008/02/22 - 09:56

...and I couldn't help but be struck by similarities to LOTR. Yes, I'll give Rowling a pass on the fact that she includes mythical beings in her work that are part of a rich folklore tradition that Tolkien tapped, too. But what about themes and specific plot twists? Besides the ones that others have been mentioning, what about:
- a forest community that doesn't trust the world of wizards, but comes through on the side of good in the end (Ents and Centaurs)
- an evil piece of jewelry that changes the personality of the wearer (the Ring and the locket Horcrux)
- a small seemingly insignificant hero who nonetheless has access into the evil lord's mind (Frodo can tune in Sauron's thoughts when he's wearing the Ring; ditto Harry through his scar)
- a small hero who has the benefit of a cloak which lends invisibility to its wearer (Elven cloak and Invisibility Cloak)
- the greatest wizard of the age being thrown down to his death from a high point (Gandalf from Zirakzigil and Dumbledore from the Astronomy Tower)
- the greatest wizard is resurrected (Gandalf as White Wizard and Dumbledore in the glowing white "King's Cross" station)
- although the final battle seems dramatic and momentous, what really matters is the journey of the hero, creeping along to what he thinks is certain death (Battle of Black Gate and Battle of Hogwarts; Frodo reaching Mt. Doom and Harry answering Voldemort's summons)

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Fred (not verified)

Now here's someone who knows

Mon, 2011/03/07 - 17:21

Now here's someone who knows what they're talking about! Doesn't matter what genre it is, you can't deny that those plotlines are way too similar to just be coincidence.

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