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Did J.K. Rowling borrow heavily from J.R.R. Tolkien?

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By Khalid on 2004/06/05 - 23:40, last updated 2004/08/01 - 14:18

Is it just me, or did someone else notice?

Initially, after seeing "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer Stone", and "The Fellowship of the Ring", I thought there are too many similarities between them to be coincidental.

After seeing "The Chamber of Secrets", and reading a bit about "The Prisoner of Azkaban", I saw "Lord of the Rings" trilogy again at home on DVD.

I thought that there was a lot of borrowing that J.K. Rowling did from J.R.R. Tolkien.

Let us see a list of similarities:

Similarity Lord of the Rings Harry Potter
Villian Sauron is the head of evil. He lost his power, and needs the ring to gain it all back Voldemort is also a vanquished evil wizard. He needs the Sorcerer's Stone in order to gain his strength back
Unlikely Hero Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit, a peaceful -- almost childish -- and weak race. He is entrusted with the task of saving the world from great evil Harry is an 11 year orphan who does much the same
Special Object The One Ring is the object that the hero must prevent the villian from getting, so as to regain his full powers The Sorcerer's Stone is the same
Mentor/Protector Gandalf is a guiding, helping, mentoring, teaching figure for Frodo Professor Dumbledore is the same in the Harry Potter series
Troll In the Fellowship of the Ring, the Orcs have a Cave Troll with them, and in The Two Towers, the Cave Trolls open the gates of Mordor In Harry Potter II, there is a Mountain Troll, whom Harry and his friends have to overpower
Giant Spider Shelob is a giant spider that almost kills and eats Frodo, in The Return of the King In the forest, there is a talking spider. It is a friend of Hagred, but chases Harry wanting to eat him
Giant raptor bird A giant eagle saves Gandalf from Isengard In the Prisoner of Azkaban, Buckbeak is a giant raptor helping Harry and friends
Dragon In the Hobbit, the prelude to The Lord of the Rings, the dragon Smaug is Bilbo Baggins adversary In Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets, there is a dragon like reptilian monster, the Basilisk, whom Harry has to slay
Goblins The goblins are one of the races of evil allying with Sauron and Saruman There are goblins who run the bank. They are physically similar to the other ones, although mostly benign
Sidekick "Creature" In Lord of the Ring, Gollum is a creature with both dual good and evil personalities. He helps Frodo in his quest Dobby is a house elf who is both a hinderance and helpful at different times

Of course, J.K. Rowling has a lot of original ideas of her own, such as the concept of muggles, and the game of Quiddich.

My opinion is that she borrowed too many themes to be a coincidence. For sure she was "inspired" by Tolkien's Lord of the Ring, at least partially.

After writing this page, I found the following links that ponder some of the points above:

  • "Stone" and "Ring" look like 2 pages out of Same Spell-book
  • Wikipedia article has a brief mention of similarities.
  • A web page listing the similarities between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings going into character details.
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Anonymous (not verified)

It's not parentless heroes

Mon, 2007/07/16 - 02:20

It's not parentless heroes and white wizards that betray the similarities between Rowling and Tolkien.

It is pointless to nit-pick and point out differences like "well, Sauron never used a wand." Point by point similarities are not the ones being argued here. Of course the book (HP) is different in that respect, otherwise Rowling would be writing fanfiction.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Almost every fantasy story

Wed, 2007/07/18 - 23:27

Almost every fantasy story today is very similar to Lord of the Rings, its simply inspired lots of other writers, and they use similar elements to the work which inspired them. Much of Tolkien's work off the Epic Poem Beowulf and of Norse/Celtic mythology.
I think in this case the similarities are a little too similar for my own tastes, but its certainly not breaking any copywright rules or anything like that, and Rowling certainly is trying to complete an origianl work. Until something better or more popular comes out, people will be copying Tolkien.
After all, "There is nothing new under the sun."

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Sexlexia2000 (not verified)

PLAGIARIZER!

Sat, 2007/07/21 - 08:33

JK ROWLING IS A TALENTLESS PLAGIERIZER WHO STEALS IDEAS AND MANIPULATES THEM, IM SURE A LITERARY GENIUS LIKE JRR TOLKIEN IS TURNING IN HIS PAUPERS GRAVE FOR EVERY 'BOOK' SHE SELLS...

JK ROWLING ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD CANNOT DISGUISE YOU FROM WHAT YOU REALLY ARE....A FRAUD!

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Anonymous (not verified)

Actually

Wed, 2007/12/26 - 02:27

Actually Tolkein died a very wealthy man, he was a professor at Oxford. I agree that Rowling doesn't deserve the fame she's gotten, though. I have been a lifelong Tolkien devotee and have read many of his works other than Lord of the Rings, and Rowling hasn't had a single original idea.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Tolkien "borrowed" too

Sun, 2009/07/19 - 19:18

"Rowling hasn't had a single original idea."

Neither did Tolkien. He borrowed heavily from Celtic sources for his Elves, German for the Ring cylcle, and a lot of other sources. Even "Gandalf" in name and wizardry wasn't originally his.

Please, check his sources. For someone claiming to want to create a British mythology, he borrowed heavily from elsewhere.

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Russ (not verified)

Neither did Tolkien. He borrowed heavily from Celtic sources

Mon, 2011/03/07 - 13:53

He may have borrowed heavily but if you'd read the Silmarillion you'd know that he pretty much invented an entirely new world and even invented his own languages. Trying to say that he was unoriginal is highly unfair and to compare him to Rowling does him absolutely no justice whatsoever.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Yea but Tolkien gave them

Mon, 2013/04/15 - 19:03

Yea but Tolkien gave them credit. Rowling did not.

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Anonymous (not verified)

HMMMMMMMM

Sat, 2007/07/21 - 08:40

HAS NOONE NOTICED THAT IN THE LATEST MOVE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX THERE ARE TWO DISTINCT QUOTES/SCENES STOLEN FROM OTHER MOVIES

HARRY IS ABOUT TO KILL BELLATRIX AND VOLDEMORT IS EGGING HIM ON......LUKE SKYWALKER IS ABOUT TO KILL DARTH VADER AND THE EMPORER IS EGGING HIM ON

AND

AT THE END OF LOTR THE TWO TOWERS FROD ASKS SAM 'WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR?' SAM SAYS 'THAT THERE IS SOME GOOS LEFT IN THE WORLD' ......AT END OF HP ORDER OF THE PHOENIX RN ASKS HARRY 'WHAT ARE WE FIGHTING FOR?' HARRY SAYS ' THAT THERE IS SOME GOOD IN THIS WORLD

HHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

MY BROTHER, COUSIN AND I ALL POINTED THESE SIMILARITIES OUT TO EACH OTHER AT THE SAME TIME WHILST WATCHING, COINCIDENTAL? I THINK NOT!!!!!!!

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Anonymous (not verified)

Dude, someone egging on a

Tue, 2008/10/07 - 06:35

Dude, someone egging on a "morally good" person to kill or do something similar, and the hero having to resist happens *everywhere*. Also the question "why/for what do we fight" and its various answers (e.g. "for what is good in the world") also appears widely in fiction and real life. Both of these phrases are and have been widely in use, and are in no way monopolized by a single source.

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Anonymous (not verified)

J.K.R. didn't steal

Mon, 2009/04/06 - 08:48

Jo didn't steal anything; those came from the movies, not the books. You should say whoever directed HP OOTP stole from Peter Jackson, that would be accurate.

While I love Tolkien and Lord of the Rings, I don't believe JKR stole a thing. The One Ring is an all powerful object that gives power, longevity, and rule. But it also turns whoever wears it evil and corrupt. The SS/PS is an object used only in the first book and it gives only long life... they don't compare. I mean, the stone is destroyed in the first book...

As for Gandalf/Dumbledore, Merlin came before either of them. Many people like this did, in fact. Dumbledore dying isn't related to Gandalf dying because Dumbledore never came back.

Dragons/Basilisk: I'm not sure if you're aware, but Tolkien didn't invent the dragon

Shelob/Aragog: Many giant spiders have been used in many movies. Aragog was good; Shelob was evil.

Aragorn/Aragog: look at the word arachnid. I think that's what it's based off of.

Eagles/Hippogriffs: I don't see at all how they are in any way related. One's an eagle and one's a hypogriff, both not invented by Tolkien.

Troll/Troll: Tolkien didn't invent the troll. And if you read JKR's site she says that the troll was used to bring the three main characters together, whereas the one in LotR is just trying to kill them.

Sauron/Voldemort: I can almost see how this can compare but, really, it doesn't. Voldemort was a dark wizard at his prime, the love of Harry's mother stopped him; however, he didn't die. He just lost his form, became an essence. His followers brung him back. Sauron was defeated and became an eye and was trying to get his ring back. That really doesn't seem like Voldemort.

Goblins/Goblins: The Goblins in LotR are fighting for Sauron. The one's in HP run a bank.... the Goblins are discriminated against and if you think about it, that's probably why they had the wars.

Gollum/Dobby: I don't see how these two creatures are related at all. Gollum is evil, uncaring, maniacal, schizoprhenic, and violent, whereas Dobby is gentle, good, caring, and is a house elf. Gollum used to be a Hobbit.. I really don't see how they're related....

As for Frodo/Harry, Frodo may not be a likely hero, but Harry is. Harry was the one who stopped Voldemort in the first place, of course he's going to be the hero.

Well, that's about it. Both JKR and JRR Tolkien are very talented authors, the two best EVER in my opinion. JKR does deserve the hype because Harry Potter is a piece of literary genius. LotR is a piece of classic literature that reformed the entire fantasy genre. They are both amazing novels.

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