A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
Misha (not verified)
Judgement
Wed, 2011/07/27 - 18:30Mango:
I too am still in contact with my 'scammer' . . I also do not feel like a victim, and am grateful for all the lessons that life brings me whether those are happy or otherwise . . and I appreciated your comment simply put that perhaps some of us are motivated by love and not lust. Also, if you look there is a real person behind the 'scammer' persona . . I would be happy to talk to you aside from this forum.
Anonymous (not verified)
I wrote on here 6 months ago
Mon, 2011/07/11 - 12:03I wrote on here 6 months ago when I had recently got married to an Egyptian man and guess what? I am still here loving the life and loving the man who is an angel. He does everything he can to please me. I dont know if I am just lucky after reading some of these awful stories but one of the worst things for me has been other English women who I dont know coming up to me by the pool if I am at a hotel and launching into a tirade of abuse about Egyptian men. Sadly I have noted that they have been unlucky but in my view they were lucky to ever get anyone at all, even for a while. There are some very unpleasant old ladies about and I have nothing but sympathy for the young men who have had the guts to bed them at some point. They can be pretty disgusting. They deserve a medal.
One women even made me begin to doubt my husband even after giving me a long list of things they say and do that are lies such as telling you they love and miss you, what is wrong with that one wonders? I was so upset and she was so wrong. Another woman told me she knew my husband and he was a serial rip off merchant. She had never even seen him before. She also pointed out that i was wasting my time learning Arabic as it is too hard - for her maybe! whilst there may be some evil men in Luxor I can assure you there are a coven of ex pat witches too who just love to stick a knife in to anyone they can who is younger, prettier, slimmer and has a happy marriage. Life is an adventure and we are not here long so stop worrying.
Isis (not verified)
Married for 6 months
Thu, 2011/07/14 - 20:35You have only been married for 6 months so you are still in the honeymoon stage. I do wish you well with your relationship and I agree that there are some honest, loyal and hardworking men in Luxor but it may take more than 6 months to know if you have such a man.
Regarding the British ex-pats - they see it all so it may be worth taking in some of what they are saying even if you are younger,prettier and slimmer.
All the best.
Hannan (not verified)
Dear Anon, I was so happy to
Fri, 2011/07/15 - 10:48Dear Anon, I was so happy to hear of a good marriage, you are right, it is possible and those women are probably jealous. As for Arabic, I am learning it and it is not so hard if one puts an effort into it, its a beautiful language, so is the Arabic culture, art and architecture. Good luck and happiness.
Anonymous (not verified)
"I can assure you there are a
Mon, 2011/10/17 - 00:26"I can assure you there are a coven of ex pat witches too who just love to stick a knife in to anyone they can who is younger, prettier, slimmer and has a happy marriage."
So true says this younger, slimmer, prettier and happier wife. Treat these witches like lepers and stay clear of them entirely and you will do fine.
Misha (not verified)
Not too "exotic"
Mon, 2011/07/11 - 13:25I do have a masters degree and am a professional in the oil industry . . I am also well travelled . . both through work and holidays . . I am not unfamiliar with Arabic culture . . and I have managed to resist the charms of Peruvian bricheros (they have a name for it in Peru) and 20 somethings over the world . . why this one . . ?? . . well that's a million dollar question . . he is also educated - I think there is also an assumption that only the lowly work in tourism . . lots of graduates in there . . and maybe no-one is immune given the right people and the right circumstances.
Misha (not verified)
Enjoy the adventure
Mon, 2011/07/11 - 13:29Sincerely - I hope you prove them wrong and that your marriage is long and happy . . enjoy learning Arabic - I certainly plan to continue . . my writing is not too bad now . .
Anonymous (not verified)
thankyou Misha. Good luck to
Mon, 2011/07/11 - 14:36thankyou Misha. Good luck to you too. Many Egyptians here in Upper Egypt have not had the benefit of education as we know in the West, but they are not so dumb. My husband has barely had much at all nevertheless he can speak 6 languages including Japanese and Finnish. Languages that we could barely dare to try and learn. All done without books, teachers or the internet. Additionally he has gradually bought land from the proceeds of a souvenir shop and now owns 45 acres which he is cultivating, irrigating and improving constantly to grow sugar cane and wheat. Not stopping at this he also buys and sells cars and has a lucrative business doing this, he is a quiet and unassuming man and surprisingly successful for someone just 29 years old. All this is done in a town where people exist on just £2 Egyptian per day on average. His ingenuity in business astounds me and I am sure that if he had been brought up in UK he would be a zillionaire by now. Many of these guys are underestimated and they strive so hard under immense odds to succeed. It annoys me that they are all grouped together and assumed to be a bunch of sleazeballs. Maybe some are but no more than anywhere else I am sure. Well done for learning arabic too. It is speaking that I find hard.
Anonymous (not verified)
hello i would appreciate your comments please
Mon, 2011/07/11 - 20:11Hi I am 29 and met an Egyptian man who is now 34 years old (i have seen his id so I know this is true) 6years ago on a family holiday. He lavished me with gifts and said he wanted to get out of luxor and see the world. I did not take much notice of this and moved on once back home in Liverpool. 2months ago he traced me on Facebook and I have just come back from having a wonderful weekend with him. He has been to Morocco and London and is now living and working in Luxembourg. He met me off the plane in Brussels and gave me a beautiful present which was a pearl and diamond necklace earring & bracelet set. And he never asked me for any money at all. He even bought my son a football kit!
We are planning to meet up again soon.
I am aware he has a wife and tells me they are currently going through divorce due to the loss of their very young baby which resulted in the breakdown if their relationship and to be honest I have no reason to doubt that.
What I would like to ask is do any of you find they smoke hash due to their culture and is this true? Is it anything like the availability and usage of drugs in the UK? I am quite bit anti drug and have had partners with this problem in the past. BUT as far as I can tell this is the only negative feeling I have towards him. I am not saying I am in love with him quite yet but am slightly unnerved when it comes down to drug taking no matter how little is consumed as I am only talking a joint a night maybe nothing more.
Many thanks and I am glad to see not ALL MEN are selfish and just out for what they can get off women.
Anonymous (not verified)
One good thing about your
Tue, 2011/07/12 - 09:36One good thing about your boyfriend is that he is no longer in Egypt so he has a bigger choice of women. If he still likes you it must mean something but I would be concerned about the ex wife and baby and why he is getting a divorce, if that is true.
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