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By Khalid on 2008/11/22 - 20:17, last updated 2008/12/28 - 15:53

A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.

Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.

Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.

So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.

The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:

Easy and Free Sex

Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.

A source for Money

Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.

An Opporunity for Immigration

Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.

Why it works?

There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.

One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.

Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.

Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.

Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.

Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.

Blacklists

Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.

  • An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
  • Wanted List of Egypt.
  • Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
  • KunstKamera blacklist.

Happens everywhere, not only Egypt

Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.

The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.

Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.

So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.

Final Thoughts

There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.

The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.

So, beware ... 

Further Reading

  • Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
  • Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
  • Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
  • Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
  • Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
  • Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
  • Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
  • List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
  • A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
  • Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
  • An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
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lynn (not verified)

can someone please translate

Sun, 2012/05/06 - 15:31

can someone please translate this, i need to know what this says soon as possible ازيك يود يااص عامل اية وحشنى كتير وعاوز اكلمك

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Anonymous (not verified)

It says how are you I miss

Sun, 2012/05/06 - 22:08

It says how are you I miss you a lot and I want to speak with you. I am not a native speaker but I do understand basic Arabic writing and this is what it says.

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Mohamed (not verified)

Translation

Sat, 2012/05/12 - 03:11

the translation is ,, "How you doing I miss you so much and I need to talk to you " the talk is to male person.

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Anonymous (not verified)

I have been happily married

Sun, 2012/05/06 - 22:01

I have been happily married to an Egyptian man for 11 years and we have a boy and a girl. We met at church in Egypt. I am English and we got married in America and now we both live here. If you read the article correctly he warns to be careful of the setting that you meet the Egyptian man in. I met mine in a family environment and met his family. We did not 'date' but went out after church in a group and got to know each other that way. I learned to speak Arabic and adhered to cultural rules. All of these things can help you from becoming a target for a scammer who is looking for someone who is ignorant of their culture. It may not seem unusual to you that you do not meet his family but this is a huge red flag! Don't expect to be able to know someone well enough after a two week vacation to marry them. If you live in Egypt and you wish to meet an Egyptian man then it is better to socialize with families who may introduce you to someone. I would strongly discourage going out with men alone. The culture is just too different and it can lead to confusion.

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lynn (not verified)

can some one please translate

Wed, 2012/05/09 - 07:51

can some one please translate this conversation,as soon as possible

Sweet Dreams:انتا مين
09 May 0:06
Sweet Dreams:يا مان
09 May 0:07
Rhy Eng:هشام
09 May 0:07
Sweet Dreams:من وين
09 May 0:08
Rhy Eng:اية يامان انا هشام صاحب منصور

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Almohamady (not verified)

Sweet Dreams: Who are you? 09

Wed, 2012/05/09 - 15:12

Sweet Dreams: Who are you?
09 May 0:06
Sweet Dreams: O man?
09 May 0:07
Rhy Eng: Hisham
09 May 0:07
Sweet Dreams: Where are you from?
09 May 0:08
Rhy Eng: I'm Hisham, friend of Mansour.

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Anonymous (not verified)

HELPPP

Sat, 2012/05/12 - 11:50

I have just returned from a 2 week holiday in Egypt and while I was on my last week at the Sonesta in Luxor I met one of the lads who works there, We went out a couple of nights and he came across really nice.. Didnt once want anything of me, pressure me or anything I just told him straight. on the last day we where both upset but now ive returned home i do miss him but i read so many storys about them i dont know what to believe, unlike some i have my head screwed on but we speak everyday and text and he wants me to go over in july!! I dont know what to think?? he says he loves me etcc all the time..But hey I knew loads over there that said it n then when you leave a new women comes along!! PLEASE HELPPP!!

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lulu (not verified)

Hi, what was his name and how

Sun, 2012/05/13 - 03:53

Hi, what was his name and how old are you?

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Nicola (not verified)

LULU

Sun, 2012/05/13 - 17:09

Badwy and 23:/

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lulu (not verified)

If he has a shaved head,

Mon, 2012/05/14 - 02:20

If he has a shaved head, Badwy is on the site of, Liers, cheats and bastards Luxor. Its worth having a look. It may not be him... :-/

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