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By Khalid on 2008/11/22 - 20:17, last updated 2008/12/28 - 15:53

A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.

Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.

Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.

So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.

The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:

Easy and Free Sex

Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.

A source for Money

Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.

An Opporunity for Immigration

Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.

Why it works?

There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.

One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.

Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.

Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.

Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.

Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.

Blacklists

Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.

  • An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
  • Wanted List of Egypt.
  • Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
  • KunstKamera blacklist.

Happens everywhere, not only Egypt

Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.

The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.

Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.

So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.

Final Thoughts

There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.

The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.

So, beware ... 

Further Reading

  • Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
  • Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
  • Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
  • Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
  • Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
  • Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
  • Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
  • List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
  • A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
  • Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
  • An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
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Anonymous (not verified)

Gullible British Women

Wed, 2015/05/13 - 03:26

I really can't understand how these British women are so gullible as to fall for the verbal trash from professional confidence tricksters.
My now girlfriend met a guy in Sharm (diver) last year 2014. She thought it wonderful that they got on so well together and could chat endlessly. He invited her to his apartment and they went for coffee and meals. He was such a genuine and decent man and also 16 years her junior and I can assure you that she looks no younger than her 52 years that she was convinced of his credibility. Naturally this then turned to sex which is acceptable for an older woman to be so flattered by the charm that she will succumb to him in any way. He is different from the rest.

I have no bad things to report as she was there for two weeks and went home. What I'm trying to point out is that when questioned and had the circumstances been different she would have considered having a relationship with him. I tried to point out that once she was on the flight home then he would be looking for his next prey and assured her that we wasn't the first and won't be the last. She traded her number and contact details and up until recently called and Facebooked her but still she can't see what he really is. How do we get through to these women what they are dealing with. Ok it's fine and flattering to have sex with someone young and virile but please close the door behind you and class it as a holiday fling.

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Cleo (not verified)

Your Now Girlfriend

Mon, 2015/05/25 - 00:09

Your now girlfriend WAS one of "those" woman. I fail to see why she was/is different to all the other British women who travel to Egypt and end up having sex with the virile and charming young men. Your now girlfriend has successfully perpetuated the expectancy of Egyptian men that that all western women are shamootas and a sure bet for sex in a Muslim country. Having sex with an older woman in Egypt is NOT acceptable. Sex outside of marriage is illegal in Egypt. If a marriage contract of convenience (Orfi) had not been signed, they both could have faced jail if caught.

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Amy (not verified)

My fiance is Coptic. And we

Tue, 2015/05/26 - 04:04

My fiance is Coptic. And we have been together for four years. We will marry as soon as he finishes army service and comes to live in the UK. I was accepted by his family immediately. His elder brothers asked him once, are you sure about what your choice is, as there is no way back, within their community, after dating a Western women. For Muslims, they do whatever. And mostly, it involves sex for money, which these women do not realise. But Christians face a problem. So, when I am there, and see these old British women, coming out of flats at night, hanging off their young Muslim lovers, either they are very stupid for getting caught, or have a paper, or pay off the police.......

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Khalid

Fraudsters from all religions

Tue, 2015/05/26 - 09:15

There are love/marriage fraudsters who are Copts, as well as Muslims. Just search sites like crooks and liars and check the names: there are many who are Copts. Sometimes the entire family is complicit in the plot. Other times those who you think are family are just unrelated people also complicit in the plot. It is all disgusting ...

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Amy (not verified)

Is this a site like the ole

Tue, 2015/05/26 - 13:11

Is this a site like the ole name and shame, liars, cheats and bxxtards?

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Khalid

Yes and No

Tue, 2015/05/26 - 13:15

Yes and No.

Yes, since it broadly addresses the issue of Western female tourists being victims of tourism workers in Egypt.

And No, because of several differences: a) it only focuses on Egypt, b) it focuses on fraud by tourism workers, c) it is not a venue for discussing romantic cheating and such.

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Cleo (not verified)

This is not a similar site

Wed, 2015/05/27 - 00:17

This site is for sharing information on women travelling to Egypt and being scammed by Egyptian men.

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olan (not verified)

heartbroken

Sun, 2015/05/31 - 14:05

My wife went to go and help an ejyptian guy he paid her 100 rand a day they worked 2gether for almost 1 month and wen i came home 1 day from work i told her that i dont want her 2 work with him anymore but i was to late they gone off 2gether i dont know what he gave her 2 eat or drink and now i hear they are living 2gether and she is busy devorcing me now i dont know how 2 get her back again i tried everything even praying but nothing works i live in retreat cape town is there any help i can get thanks god bless feel free 2 email me at olandicks49@gmail.com

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Monika (not verified)

abdullah spoiled my life

Tue, 2015/06/16 - 07:12

I am 21 years old. I met Abdullah in internet. He is 62 years old. I had to empty my mothers account and took 800 000 euros, brought to him so he would arrange our marriage. He used me as a sex slave 18 months. He even [removed by site]. Then found a new girl and threw me out.

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Cleo (not verified)

He threw you out???

Mon, 2015/06/22 - 00:37

It's usually 21 year old Egyptian men with 62 year old western women. A 62 year old Egyptian man is not something I'd like to wake up to each day. I think you are having us on.

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