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By Khalid on 2008/11/22 - 20:17, last updated 2008/12/28 - 15:53

A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.

Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.

Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.

So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.

The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:

Easy and Free Sex

Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.

A source for Money

Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.

An Opporunity for Immigration

Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.

Why it works?

There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.

One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.

Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.

Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.

Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.

Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.

Blacklists

Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.

  • An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
  • Wanted List of Egypt.
  • Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
  • KunstKamera blacklist.

Happens everywhere, not only Egypt

Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.

The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.

Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.

So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.

Final Thoughts

There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.

The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.

So, beware ... 

Further Reading

  • Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
  • Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
  • Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
  • Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
  • Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
  • Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
  • Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
  • List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
  • A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
  • Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
  • An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
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stronggirl (not verified)

Sad.......

Wed, 2012/06/20 - 10:39

Thats all I can say really, I just think the whole thing is terribly sad. English women maybe naiive or a bit silly or foolish......but one thing Im proud to say is that I am not a LIAR. Never have, never will.

What goes round comes round, always.

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jenna (not verified)

Egyptian Boyfriend

Sat, 2010/02/06 - 17:55

If you had spent some time learning about the culture, you would realize there is no such thing as boyfriend in their culture... this type of behavior is strictly forbidden.

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Anonymous (not verified)

its not easy to get marry certificate in Egypt?

Tue, 2009/08/04 - 05:26

a asian women wanna marry with her boy friend in her country.but the man several time to failed to get document from Egypt.
actually the man working in UAE and just only take one week holiday to Egypt for single certification.
he told me the Egypt government move very slow and he dont have enough time to wait in there,also the company ask him to back UAE on time for work.

so now,we totally over.... because we both tooo tired for that.
we know each other about 5years....
so, i asked him to marry with lacal Egyption woman and he said he cannot forget about me... but i told him you have to....

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Anonymous (not verified)

Men from Egypt

Thu, 2009/08/13 - 14:30

Most of the relationships are between older women and younger men.It is foolish to expect a relationship based on selfishness on the part of older women to evoke selfless love from the younger men.

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Ann (not verified)

Older women.

Thu, 2009/08/27 - 12:41

We have just moved to a new house in Manchester, next door lives a woman of 72, I was shocked to find out her husband is just 30, the neighbours tell me they have been married for 5 years and they still walk hand in hand everywhere. She is not wealthy, just has a small pension, he works for a well known firm in a good job. I must admit though, she is very attractive and does not look her age, he is quite handsome too. So it can work if its real love. Oh yes, they are both English and born here. Going to Luxor again soon, will report any new stories.

From Ann (Hanan)Manchester UK.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Warning!!

Sun, 2009/08/30 - 08:12

Egyptian man wants marriage with women from europa, because they feel money an visa.this is fact.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7396/dsc00418h.jpg

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Anonymous (not verified)

Visa to UK

Sun, 2009/08/30 - 16:27

You are right, but the law has changed in UK, all visa/work permits from outside EU has been stopped except for doctors that are needed for specialist treatment and some dentist practices. So marrying a woman from England is now a waste of time if it is for that reason, as for money, no one has any here anymore. Ireland is also stopping visa's. from London.

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Anonymous (not verified)

mohamed abdou

Sat, 2009/09/05 - 19:02

heya people...

can anyone tell me anything about a man named mohamed abdou from luxor.. he lived in germany for the past 14 or so years..
apparently he is opening a hotel in luxor

be very interested to know..

thanks for your help

Louise

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Anonymous (not verified)

Haytham adel abdelaziz

Mon, 2009/09/07 - 09:25

Hallo..

I just want to know if anybody know haytham adel abdelaziz??
He work in luxor Airport..
Thanks for your help.
If anybody know him let me know...

Louise

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Khalid

Futile

Mon, 2009/09/07 - 12:03

Louise,

Sorry to say that, but it is a futile effort to keep asking about these people -- one after the other -- when most of them are in it for fun and money.

It seems you are looking for a relationship on your trip, rather than enjoying the place.

It is best to limit your contact with these types altogether rather than pursuing them.

Use your brains, not your emotions.

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