A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
zampokh (not verified)
It is extremely rare for a
Mon, 2010/05/17 - 06:16It is extremely rare for a woman to offer money for sex, and there are only an extremely limited number of cases where women — usually over 40 — become involved with young Bedouin men and, as part of the unofficial bargain, buy them cars or perhaps pay their rent.
Though this might not sound much different than any other traveler’s tryst, according to SexTourism.net, a website offering advice for male and female sex tourists, this is generally how sex tourism plays out for women around the globe. While men usually just want sex, the site explains, “Female sex tourists on the other hand are more interested in having a holiday romance or fling — which may or may not result in sex. Women rarely pay for sexual or romantic encounters with men during sex tours — however there are a small number who seek the services of male prostitutes or ‘gigolos’ when abroad.”
Still, many Bedouins downplay the extent to which women are coming to the desert in search of sex or inadvertently happening upon it when they arrive. When asked if he’d heard of Western women on the prowl for Bedouin men in Petra, Rami Manaja joked that if they were out there, please point them in his direction.
Manaja says he is happily married and faithful to his Saudi wife. He sells jewelry in Petra and says he has visited more than 20 different countries. What he’s seen in Petra doesn’t strike him as all that different than anything that happens in exotic destinations all over the world.
“Pretty much anywhere you go it’s the same: People on holiday want to have fun,” he said.
When these romantic encounters happen in the Middle East though, this type of exchange can be especially problematic as sex outside of marriage remains a serious taboo — for Muslims and Christians alike. What happens on desert camping trips defies hundreds of years of tradition and often reinforces negative stereotypes about Western women’s tendency toward promiscuity.
Mary, an American who lived in Jordan for two years and who also asked that GlobalPost not use her real name, dated a Bedouin guide in Wadi Rum for a year and a half. While she had no regrets about her relationship, she advised other Western women not to have a fling while in Wadi Rum.
“In the Middle East they have this opinion of Western women that they are very loose, and all of their suspicions are coming true in Wadi Rum. Women definitely aren’t making a good name for themselves down there,” she said.
Many women new to the region say it is difficult to immediately see the cultural divides that can create problems. For example, Pia, an Italian who had worked in Jordan for several months before traveling to Petra on vacation, admitted that she was still “ignorant."
“I went there just like I was in a Western country,” she said. When she fell for her Bedouin guide, he admitted that he was in a relationship with another woman who had returned to Italy. He said, however, that he was in an open relationship and that he was free to date.
“The Bedouin men give you the impression that they are free and have the same mentality as Western people. They tell you, ‘I am not like other Arab people, we are free.’ … Of course, it’s fake, it’s a lie.”
Pia said she discovered this when she got into a quarrel with another guide because she rejected his advance. As revenge, the slighted guide sent her phone number to the other guide’s girlfriend back in Italy. Pia stopped her flirtations with the guide after that incident. Later, she said she called his girlfriend in Italy and learned that the woman was paying his rent and planning to give up her acting career in Italy to move to Petra for him. The guide told Pia that his main reason for keeping the relationship with the other woman was because she paid his rent.
Walking the canyons of Petra, it’s not uncommon to see many foreign women swoon over the local men. At Love Lion, a snack shop in the ancient city of Petra, a young, female tourist from the U.S. approached a Bedouin man. “Excuse me,” she said, embarrassed. “But you have the most beautiful eyes I’ve ever seen. Can I please take your picture?” The vendor already had a serious girlfriend in Portugal.
Many Bedouin men have little modesty about their appeal to women.
“There’s the cowboy in the American movies and he knows how to ride horses very well and deal with nature. He’s something different than the city man. In the movies, women fall in love with this man and maybe have sex with him in the end of the movie,” said Saleem Ali, a tour guide in Wadi Rum. “Bedouin men are pretty good looking, they climb very well, they ride horses and camels very well, and they know how make tea and cook, and deal with nature. So it’s not the fault of the girl that she falls in love with the man. It’s nature.”
In an essay Jacobs explains that Western women tend to see Bedouins as "real" men who fit neatly into “traditional stereotypes of masculinity.”
When Anne, an American who asked not to use her real name, went to the Western desert in Egypt for the first time, she said it was difficult not to become smitten.
A study abroad student in Egypt at the time, she was living in Cairo, one of the most polluted, crowded cities in the world. As in most Arab cities, it’s often difficult for Westerners to cross the cultural divide and immerse in the local culture. For Anne and many of her friends, the Egyptian oases provided both an escape from the city and a way into the local culture.
“It was so romantic to go out and be in the White Desert and I guess it was a little bit of trying to integrate too,” she said. “It’s just such a beautiful place and [the guide] knew where he was going, he was so confident, so there was that. But for some other people, it was just fun for them.”
After spending a year in Egypt where she had a casual relationship with a Bedouin guide whom she came to consider a close friend, and working for two years in Jordan, Anne said that she’d met many young women who’d had a desert fling. On a camping trip of all girls, she said, it would be very normal for at least one girl to hook up with one of the guides.
“It’s fun, and if you’re not dating anyone else then why not? You’re spending all night with these people, if you were going out to a club and you ended up spending all night with someone, I mean, chances are something is going to happen,” she said, adding: “They cook you dinner, too. It’s pretty nice.”
During one of his first trips as a tour guide, Suleman Zalabeh said he was startled when a European woman began making out with another guide in front of him. Three years later, Zalabeh, now 21, said he’d had sex with more than 25 tourists. He recently got engaged to a local woman and said he’d stopped having relationships with other women and that his wife didn’t know about his past.
Although Zalabeh enjoyed most of these encounters, looking back he said he now felt conflicted. “I’m not proud of these things,” he said. As a Muslim, he said he felt some remorse for having sex outside of marriage.
According to Attayak Zalabeh, manager of a tour company in Wadi Rum, experiences like Suleman Zalabeh’s are common. Most guides begin working when they are 18 or 19 years old, a prime age for sexual experimentation. After several years, they get married and shortly move into management jobs where they spend less time working directly with groups in the desert.
As a young man, Attayak Zalabeh, now in his mid-30s, had several relationships with foreign women. Now married, he said he advised his young employees against doing as he did.
“If you are a guide, you find out it’s true [that you should avoid relationships with foreign women]. As a guide, it’s not good to try to go with women, because it’s not good for business,” he said, explaining that if a tour guide is busy focusing on one woman, they neglect the rest of the tour group and create unhappy customers. More importantly, he worried about young men getting sexually transmitted diseases and violating their commitment to Islam.
Tom A. Peter — GlobalPost
Anonymous (not verified)
Jordan: sex tourism vs romance scam
Sun, 2013/12/29 - 13:12in reply to Zampokh
I read the actual article in JO Magazine a few years ago (2011?). It is a pity the article (and JO Magazine) is no longer available, because the outrageous amount of comments were a lot more interesting. The comments told a completely different story and the writer of the article was heavily criticised for victimizing the bedouins of Petra (Aqaba, Wadi Rum and even Amman).
I am not denying there will be an odd number of women that fell for the charming bedouin lying through their shiny white teeth on their first visit and when they were offered(!) to spend nights in caves and in the desert with their bedouin...they return for probably that purpose only. Although I find it hard to believe that women would actually travel for hours on end just to have sex, when they can have an arabian night in their own country.
But the fact is that it is the bedouins who actively go "fishing for (solo female)tourists" as they call it. It happened to me on a number of occassions when I visited Jordan. Friendly chats, showing way too much interest, inviting me for barbecue dinners in the desert, or tea with their families (all members are in on the scamming). But I didn't fall for their silly swindling.
The same happened to the writer of this article:
http://www.alternet.org/how-i-almost-accidentally-became-female-sex-tourist
Jordan is just as bad Egypt, but in Jordan it is cleverly hidden behind the hospitality facade that Jordan is "so famous" for. The truth is that there are a few strings attached to that hospitality and it's Jordanian Dinars. Always, well at least it is in the tourists areas and sites.
I am pleased to see that the internet is showing more and more bad experiences women have had in Jordan. That will warn others to keep their guard up over there as well.
There is even a facebook page called Stop The Petra Bedouin Women Scammers.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Stop-the-Petra-bedouin-women-scammers/590518707632478
One poster defined sex tourism vs romance scam:
“SEX TOURISM” is defined as travel planned specifically for the purpose of sex
and
"BEZNESS OR ROMANCE SCAM" is the dirty 'art' of (usually young) men persuading women to fall in love with them to gain monetary profit
za mpo kh (not verified)
I hope that the previous
Mon, 2010/05/17 - 06:24I hope that the previous article tells you what I ment in all previous posts.
it is pretty clear that you do this every where it's not only egypt so againe stope
weeping just fasten the belt and enjoy the act.
Isis (not verified)
Enjoy What Act?
Mon, 2010/05/17 - 21:52Your piece of information clearly states that foreign women rarely pay for sex. That totally defeats your whole line of initial comment. And by the way - enjoy what act??? Middle Eastern men have absolutely NO clue how to have sex. Their "ACT" is selfish and demanding with no consideration for the woman. You really are ignorant and pompous. Go away!
zampokh (not verified)
you agin lost your temper and
Tue, 2010/05/18 - 01:33you agin lost your temper and don't know how to behave yourself and this exactly what i'm trying to proof from the start you weather have the right in your side or you are out of the game.
if what you get from the the whole article is the first line it would be usless discussing any thing with you.
i just take one example, this jordanian guy who had sex with 25 wetesrn women dose that mean any thing for you.
who is bad guy in this example the young guy or those 25 women. what i said from the start is both are wrong and you are not happy with that you need some who sorry please forgive we know we are very bad and you are very good and discplined.
no sorry those guys are cheeter i do agree but those women are (to be polite) loose lacking morals and they don't behave themselfs as well.
zampokh (not verified)
enjoy what act??? Middle
Tue, 2010/05/18 - 01:46enjoy what act??? Middle Eastern men have absolutely NO clue how to have sex. Their "ACT" is selfish and demanding with no consideration for the woman. You really are ignorant and pompous. Go away!
this is the racism that stand behind the whole discussion. and agine if the eastern men are as you described, there will be know problem and it would be so simple this way, just stop having sex with them.
in all these example which i red here i din't hear that any women had been raiped or taken by froce, they are all mature women and chose to do so by their free well.
Isis (not verified)
Racism doesn't come into it
Tue, 2010/05/18 - 21:49Quite obviously you symthaise with the Jordanian guy - why would he expose himself to 25 women and con 25 women into his bed if he wasn't a creep and a con man - and you blame the women!! I am not angry - just frustrated at your lack of perception and readiness to blame foreign women as are 90% of Egyptian men ready to blame. Most fortunately I married one outstanding example of an Egyptian man who is obviously in the remaining 10%. He is not narrow minded and judgemental and does not look down on women as a secondary being. He also does not change argument and thought processes to suit himself. It is obvious the you have never been out of Egypt and seen the western lifestyle so therefore your understanding of western life is only limited to what you have perceived from cable television which is far, far removed from acutality.
To say to stop having sex with middle eastern men is to say that they are not to blame. They are the ones who court foreign women whether it be for money and/or sex. They are the ones who plan the scams and they are the ones who are so lazy that they can't get off their backsides to do an honest day's work. These men see taking money from western women as an easier and more gratifying lifestyle choice. The Jordanian man is a prime expample.
There are many women that have been raped and taken by force, beaten and robbed especially in Hurghada and Sharm. Sexual crime against women tourists in Luxor is on the increase and yet you choose to ignore these facts and the women are still to blame.
Your arguuments hold no substance.
ZAMPOKH (not verified)
This discussion is useless
Wed, 2010/05/19 - 02:54This discussion is useless every one comes here with his own stereotypes. It is useless.
We think that you are (I mean the westerns) morally loose, unfaithful, and one day you will betray your spouse sooner or later. The western woman can sleep with any one, she just need an excuse to make it, you call it love but when you sleep with ten men even if it was love you are actually a prostitute not a woman that deserve sympathy from any one.
And from other side you think we are uncivilized, savage and cheaters.
You are happy with what you think and we are happy with what we think.
What I said and what I will keep saying non of them deserve sympathy either the cheater nor the prostitute
NO VICTEMS IN THE PREVIOUS SCENARIO
THEY ARE BOTH SICK
GOOD LUCK
some one do care (not verified)
plz listn up
Tue, 2010/05/18 - 00:20im sorry for saying this but egypt use to be country of histort that was 10 years ago now in western country thay say if u wanna have sexsual trip go to egypt thats mean must of tourist here dont care about history thay care about sex so thay know what thay doing . we wish every body to be carefull but its not only egypt its every were in uncivilaid country
zampokh (not verified)
pleas all read carefully the
Tue, 2010/05/18 - 04:16pleas all read carefully the article from it's begening the first part is in the previous page.
and to make it easy for you i cited some imprtant parts out of the article.
(((What happens in Jordan is far from the extremes of women’s sex tourism found in
Places like Jamaica and Kenya and Senegal, where women reportedly “rent” men for a set period of time. However, the kingdom is developing a reputation as a destination for women looking for an exotic rendezvous. Jo Magazine, a prominent local magazine, ran a cover story last summer, online sites like Escape Artist Travel have listed Jordan as a female sex tourism destination, along with Southern Europe, the Caribbean Basin, Kenya in Africa, and to a lesser extent Central America, the South Pacific and Morocco)))
(((“In the Middle East they have this opinion of Western women that they are very loose, and all of their suspicions are coming true in Wadi Rum. Women definitely aren’t making a good name for themselves down there,” she said.))) and i'm adding to this they aren't making a good name for themselfs at Wadi Rum and every where they go.
(((Pia stopped her flirtations with the guide after that incident. Later, she said she called his girlfriend in Italy and learned that the woman was paying his rent and planning to give up her acting career in Italy to move to Petra for him)))
by the way they are talking about Jordan here not egypt. so it is every where, it is not only those guys who are wrong it is also those western undiscipline, loose women who have the same problems every where. by the way the article didn't list Egypt as a knowon place for casual sex so the problem is much simpler in egypt than any where else.
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