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By Khalid on 2006/09/09 - 18:28, last updated 2006/09/09 - 18:28

I recently listed a car for sale on craigslist and other local classified ad services.This is one reply I got, which is clearly an attempt at scamming:

From: Dave Smith <goldenwum12@yahoo.com>Subject: [The title of the classified ad for the car]Hello,I just viewed your car posting on craigslist and i have interest on it i will like to know the present condition and two more pictures of the car before i proceed with the transaction.Thanks

Problem is, the scammer is not very smart. I did not posted pictures to begin with, so there are no more pictures. So, I sent this reply:

From: meTo: Dave Smith <goldenwum12@yahoo.com>Pictures attached.

I intentionally did not attach any pictures. A genuine buyer would have noticed this of course. Instead, the scammer proceeded with the next step, revealing his true intent:

From Dave Smith <goldenwum12@yahoo.com>To: meHello,Thanks for your reply i got all your information about the car and am ok with it, i will be making your payment today i need your full name and address to make your payment today through electronic check i will handle the shipment myself.All what you need about the mode of payment is to get a Blank check paper and magnetic versa ink to print the check, the check will be sent to your email and you get it printed from it. You can get this materials from the following stores.1. Office Depot2. Office Max3. Staples Store 4. Stationery Store5. Compusa.When you get this materials you can print the check out and immediately after the printing you can then get the check cashed at your Bank or any bank of america branch around you I will wait for you to confirm and clear the check.The payment will be in excess as i will want you to contact my shipper with the excess fund for shipping the car after you must have confirmed and cashed the check.i will wait for your bank to clear the check so you can deduct your own money and send the excess fund to the shipper via Western Union Money Transfer so as to cover the cost of shipping the car from your place to it's destination. I will add extra 100$ for the purchasing of check paper and magnetic versa ink.For more information about the mode of payment you can check the website www.qchex.com and know more about it .Dont worry i will handle the shipping myself with my shipper. you can IM on this ID goldenwum10@yahoo.com or call me on 9145954296 for more information.Thanks and God Bless

This is a classic scam where a fake cheque is sent to the victim for more than the amount owed, and the difference is to be wired to the scammer.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Thank you

Sat, 2008/12/20 - 12:59

I just receive and email regarding the same problem. I had no idea what he was talking about, so when i googled "versa business check paper", you came up. I just sent him a spicy email telling him my lawyer will get involved.

Thank you

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Anonymous (not verified)

"Darrell Elmer Strikes Again"

Wed, 2008/12/24 - 22:10

I recieved this email from Darrell Elmer From: "darrell elmer"

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Anonymous (not verified)

I received this one today, different name but same type of scam

Sat, 2008/12/27 - 21:11

Sounds Good, OK, I WILL PAY YOU THE $1500

I am interested in buying it ASAP, I am from Springfield town in Ohio state but i am out of states presently to Nigeria on 2 months business visit to inspect my businesses across West African countries.

Therefore, I will pay you by Electronic Cashier Check and I will contact my shipper to come and pick up the item from your house to my house after the check clears in your bank.

If you have not use Electronic Cashier Check before, it is the new check payment method that is simple, secured and faster than money order, mail cashier and personal check to clear. When the check issued, it will be send to your email address with printing instructions and you will just go to the nearby stationary store and buy Business Check Paper to print out the check and take it to your bank for cash, you will see the check paper at store for just $5 or $10. I will give you additional $50 as cost of supplies to your asking price.

However, kindly delete the advert from Craigslists website and give me your full name, full address and your phone number so that the E-Check will be send to your email today and you will print it out immediately and take it to your bank.

Waiting for your reply with your full name, full address and your contact number so that the electronic check will be issued and send to your email for you to print out with business check paper and take it to your bank for cash.

Mr. Micheal Don

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Anonymous (not verified)

craigslist scam

Sun, 2008/12/28 - 20:52

i posted a vehicle on craigslist for sale. i recieved an email for a gentlemen claiming he was in Nigeria on business. here is the convo.

i would have love to pay you by cash but i am out of states now as i said in my last mail.
then, i would have also use paypal but i am having technical problem with my account now which will be resolved when i return back to states.
then, i do not have access to money order and mail cashier check here in Nigeria.

that is why i am paying you by electronic cashier check, it is a new check payment method and is simple, secured and faster to clear than other check payment, it di clear same day or next day you deposit it in your bank.

meanwhile, i am a legit and honest christian and you are 100% safe and secured because the check will clear in your bank first before i will contact my shipper to come and pick up the ford. HOW FAKE IS THIS GUY!

kindly give me your full name, full address and your contact number so that i can issue the e-check and send it with the printing instructions to your email to print out with business check paper, the check will be drawn on bank of america accout.

if you give me your details now, the check will be issue right now and send to your email and you will print it out today and take to your bank tomorrow morning to deposit it and will clear by tuesday or wednesday and i can now arrange for pick up.

i await your reply, you can reach me on this number +2348034822994 in Nigeria if you still want to speak with me.

i will be happy if you comply with my payment method because i really want to buy your ford.
Mr Micheal Don

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G-Man (not verified)

NEW E-Check Scammer named Scott Joe

Mon, 2008/12/29 - 21:39

Here's yet another scammer, (or same one with many names)
The obvious was how his wording mirrored other scams almost perfectly.

On the sale of my guitar, "Scott" writes...

Hello,

Sounds good, i would like to purchase it from you as soon as possible. (I am intrested and ready to buy it now) The easiest way for me to pay is probably E-Check from my Bank(Bank Of America).I know there are a lot of scams so I have no problem with you waiting for the E-Check to go through at your bank or anything.here is a thing from the E-Check: You will probably need to buy Versal Business Check paper, at any store below in your area,

(1) Shopping Mall
(2) Stationery Store
(3) Office Depot
(4)Office max
(5)WalMart
(6)Staples

For $20.Once you purchase the Versal Business Check paper.I will email you the check and you will have it printed.then proceed to your bank and cash or deposite it.I will wait for your bank to verify and clear the Echeck before we proceed with shipment.As my Bank Operator informed me that it will clear immidiately at your bank as it was from my global account with.Which is Conforms to All American Banking Association rules and standards this is to stop C.O.D.The item will be pickup by my private shipping company,so you don't have to worry about the shipment.

Please Email me back and let me know if this helps

After I explained I have always used PayPal, he responded...

Hello,

I have been screwed by paypal once, so my lawyer advised me to only make payment online via electronic check.
The electronic check is new technology and is very legit and fast, this is a Verified and Certified electronic Bank check for online transaction. If you are still willing to sell this item for me, proceed to purchase the Versal business check paper, for you to receive the payment ASAP.

Hope you all help spread the word about these scammers so hopefully they can spend their lives behind bars, although I personally prefer a firing squad! We'd have a lot less scammers, that's for sure!

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Anonymous (not verified)

This is what I got...of

Thu, 2009/01/08 - 22:46

This is what I got...of course we told him now...

RE: 1: 1986 GMC 1/2 Ton Automatic V8 w/Short Bed - $2500 (Wenatchee)‏
From: Henry Young (young_8hen@hotmail.com)
Sent: Thu 1/08/09 6:51 PM

You can purchase the Versa business check paper at any Kinkos office or Library in yout area, so i can only make the payment through electronic check only, if you know you really want to sell the item for me, proceed to purchase the versa business check paper and let me know when you have it.

Henry Young
200 E Commonwealth Ave
Alhambra, CA 91801
Fax # 626-270-4403

To: young_8hen@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 1: 1986 GMC 1/2 Ton Automatic V8 w/Short Bed - $2500 (Wenatchee)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:13:15 -0800

I'll get you more pictures and any details but we will only accept a cashier's check or cash. Just let me know.

From: young_8hen@hotmail.com
Subject: 1: 1986 GMC 1/2 Ton Automatic V8 w/Short Bed - $2500 (Wenatchee)
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:10:16 -0800

Great to hear from you, what are the working condition of the item, and i want you to provide me more pictures of this item.

The easiest way for me to pay for this item is though Electronic company bank check, which will draw from (Commerce Bank or Chase bank) and all what you need for the electronic check is to purchase Versa business check paper,for you to use it to print the check before cashing, and it's cost $10.

You can purchase the versa buisness check paper at any of this store in your area (Staples,WalMart,Office max,Office max,Office Depot,Shopping Mall,Stationery Store) or you can order it online at (www.formsandchecks.com).

Once you purchase the versa business check paper. The electronic check will be send online immediately to your email box, for you to have it printed. then proceed to your bank to cash or deposite it. I will wait for your bank to verify and clear the check before we proceed with the shipment.

The item will be pickup by my private shipping company,so you don't have to worry about the shipment.

Henry Young
200 E Commonwealth Ave
Alhambra, CA 91801
Fax # 626-270-4403

To: young_8hen@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 1986 GMC 1/2 Ton Automatic V8 w/Short Bed - $2500 (Wenatchee)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 18:11:43 -0800

It is actually - we have had a few people come by to look and some who want to come by so if you'd like to check it out. Are you in Wenatchee? (as I see you have a CA address?)

From: young_8hen@hotmail.com
To: sale-982242504@craigslist.org
Subject: 1986 GMC 1/2 Ton Automatic V8 w/Short Bed - $2500 (Wenatchee)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:20:18 -0800

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

Hope this item, is still available for sell?

Henry Young
200 E Commonwealth Ave
Alhambra, CA 91801
Fax # 626-270-4403

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J Condon (not verified)

Scammer

Thu, 2009/01/08 - 22:59

Sounds Good
Am satisfied with the price & condition and my mode of payment is through a cashiers check drawn on Bank of America which is legit, fast & secure, visit www.iversacheck.com to know more on how payment works, Only a VersaCheck paper (business size) is required to print out the check which you can easily get from any of this stores (staples, stationary stores, office depot, walmart) which cost $10, once you get the check paper the check will be sent to you for print out and once the check is printed it's generally accepted at any bank for cashout, you don't worry about the shipment fees, I will hire a private shipper to make a pickup after you must gotten your cash at hand. you can proceed to get the check paper and as well send me your full name & contact address which the check will be payable to, along with your email address. am awaiting you reply.

Don Williams
St Martinville, LA 70582
Fax (337) 680-4010

Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 17:57:56 -0800
From: oldhommer@verizon.net
Subject: Re: 74 Chevrolet Pick Up - $1000 (Garland)
To: donwilliams005@live.com

Mr. Williams
Yes it still 4 sale. If you like to see it just call me at 214-6@@-####. This is my cell phone number. Anytime after 6:00 P.M. Monday thru Friday or anytime on the week is just fine.

Later
Jerry

From: Don Williams
To: sale-984689831@craigslist.org
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 12:25:23 PM
Subject: 74 Chevrolet Pick Up - $1000 (Garland)

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

Kindly get back to me if its still available for sale. Thanks...
Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Chat. Store. Share. Do more with mail. Check it out.
this message was remailed to you via: sale-984689831@craigslist.org

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My Reply

Mr. Williams: looks like fraud to me Your Phone Number comes up as Fraud number on Craiglist Scam sorry no deal

Jerry
Scam from Barb Roman Rock Springs, Wy
Submitted by Cindy (not verified) on Mon, 2008/11/24 - 23:56.

I have an ad place on Craigs list and this is the scammer that responded to it twice and perhaps a month ago on another sale. Nov 24, 2008

Sounds Good.
I am okay with the condition and the price,My mode of payment will be via Electronic Bank Check.I work with an auditing firm and will not have time to mail a check, Electronic Bank checks is fast,secure and reliable which is generally accepted on eBay you can log on to www.iversacheck.com to see more on how it works.You will probably need a Instant Check Paper (Personal Size) to print and cash or deposit the check today,it wont take you more than 1 hour to get the check printed and deposit or cash at your bank.The Instant Check Paper (Personal Size) is sold for $15 at any stationery store,staples or at your local office supply outlet.I will need your name and address with valid email address to send the Echeck to your email which you can print immediately when you must have purchase the supplies at staples or any stationery store.i will be handling the shipping myself via my private shipping company after you must have gotten your cash at hand,Kindly delete the advert of this item if my mode of payment is accepted.I will await your email asap.

Thanks
Barb Roman
Rock Springs, WY
Fax (337) 680-4010

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Anonymous (not verified)

Bob Edwards

Sat, 2009/01/10 - 19:25

I got all the same emails and then I sent him info on the item for sale being in Nigeria and I would have to have my partner collect the money plus a fee and all this other garbage and then would ship it to him within 6 months. THIS IDIOT ACTUALLY EMAILED ME THIS BACK....LOL...LOL...LOL WHY HE USED A RACIAL TERM IS BEYOND ME????

from bob edwards
to ***************** ( I DELETED THIS PART OF MY ADDRESS)
date Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 7:15 PM
subject RE: AMOUNT OF THE PAYMENT
mailed-by hotmail.com

hide details 7:15 PM (6 minutes ago)

Reply

Hello,

i am a scammer i wanna scam you,and i belive you are a nigger, so can we work toghthere to make money..

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Anonymous (not verified)

Craigslist scam

Mon, 2009/01/12 - 18:58

This is the email I got:

Sounds Good.
I have read mode and condition of this item on your postage in craigslist,l am interest to purchase the item from you and I will like to proceed with payment asap and l will arrange shipment when you must have gotten your cash at hand. International Auto Dependable Shipping Company will pick it up once check are clear at the bank.My mode of payment will be via (Echeck)Electronic cashier Check drawn onBank of America.You will probarbly need a Blank Business Check Paper to print and cash or deposit the check.The Blank Business Check Paperis sold for $20 at any below stationery outlet...

1).Sam's Club
2).Micro Centers
3).Any Fry's Electronic stores.
4).Any Stationery Stores.
5).Compusa.

I will re-emburse you for the cost of supplies to your asking price.I am currently away from home and will not have time to mail a check.Electronic cashier checks is fast and secure.I will need your name and address with valid email address to send the Echeck to your email which you can print immediately when you must have purchase the supplies at any stationery store.Kindly delete the advert of this item if my mode of payment is accepted.I will await your email asap.

Thanks.

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Anonymous (not verified)

This scam is in CINCINNATI as well

Tue, 2009/01/13 - 11:43

Beware Cincinnati. Anyone wanting to buy a car without seeing it is full of crap. DONT BE FOOLED. I got the same email as everyone above about my car on craigslist.

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