A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
Helena (not verified)
Oh gosh, if you are blonde
Tue, 2010/12/07 - 00:53Oh gosh, if you are blonde America, it just makes things worst. My ex-husband originally from Egypt married me BECAUSE I was Blonde and have American citizenship and not because he loved me. When he got to America, he worshiped me and complimented me on my looks. About 5 months into our marriage, he started used my credit cards and spent most of my savings. He started havig affairs with other blonde Americans right after he got his citizenship. I warn all blondes out there! BE CAREFUL with Egyptian men, everything an Egyptian man tells you are LIES!!!!
Khalid
Playboy ...
Tue, 2010/12/07 - 01:37Sadly, there are some unscrupulous Egyptian men who take advantage of Western women like that.
This is a case where he wanted citizenship and used a woman victim for this.
More reasons for Western women to be aware.
Anonymous (not verified)
sorry she is not american ,
Tue, 2011/02/08 - 09:34sorry she is not american , she from holland and she always lie , i will nothing if i say something like that but really she is so sick person and i just run from her and lots of friends helped me :)
anyway im sorry for that really but in egypt you will find good ppl and bad ppl like your country like her country.
but what she said is so far from the true
I know (not verified)
I don't know what to say to
Mon, 2010/12/20 - 17:40I don't know what to say to all these victims, I'm very shocked and saddened by the horror stories I've read here today, I'm an Egyptian and have been living here since I was born, I always knew that many men who work in the tourism industry have sex with foreign women all the time, but I never known that such terrible tragedies followed them.
It really sickens me to think about what have been done to many of the women, my condolences to all of you, I really wish the world was a better place than this, but every single place in the world has the good and the bad, I know it's quite impossible to change your view of Egyptian people after experiencing this excruciating pain from the bad batch of them, but I promise you that there are still many good people here, same as everywhere else in the world, it just happens that our most terrible batch are in the tourism industry, any honest Muslim wouldn't work in the tourism industry from the 1st place, only those who sold their souls for money work in that industry, tourism jobs in Egypt are advertised by it's workers as cheap and easy money for almost no effort, which is seen by many Egyptians are their ticket out of poverty, the moment they start getting all that easy money, they get greedy like any human being who doesn't feel the pain in making his money and start doing whatever they can to get more, they start stealing from tourists, selling them crap for excessive prices and then end up ruining their lives, especially the female tourists who are usually vulnerable to such scams due to them wanting to relax and have fun away from their stressful daily life in their country, which clouds their judgment and make them fall for it.
Please understand that not every Egyptian man is a disgusting opportunistic conman who just wants to use you, many Egyptians out there are honest men and want nothing in return but love, loyalty and support, also wanting a western nationality doesn't classify him as the "he doesn't love me, he is using me to get the out of the country free card" type, him wanting a western nationality doesn't have to mean that he is just using you to get it and doesn't that he even love you or want to be with you after he gets it, marriage is all about giving and taking, if you marry an honest man, you expect from him love, loyalty and support, he expects the same, nationality/citizenship may have been a goal of those who marry foreign women but it doesn't mean he married you just for it.
The only reason that drives many Egyptians to change their nationality to western countries is that the current Egypt is a terrible place to live in, if your family didn't leave you some money to start your life with, you are most likely to suffer for the rest of your life and live paycheck to paycheck (if you are actually able to find a job), also say goodbye to even have a chance of getting married since in our society, most parents of girls are bloodsuckers, they demand things that a simple working man could never afford even if he worked hard for years. Also in all Arab societies not just Egyptian, High/middle-class families consider jobs like a waiter or a chef (yes I said chef, who could actually make millions these days) to be demeaning, they consider it a disgrace, although this idiocy has nothing to do with Islam, just an illiterate backward culture.
Which makes marrying an independent foreign woman appeal to many Egyptian men, the foreign woman is less likely to ask for unnecessary financial requests from him unlike what most parents here do. Plus he gets the chance to live in a society where he could work any job without being judged.
My only advice to future female tourists coming to Egypt not to get involved with any1 in the tourism industry, keep your trip according to plan and schedule.
Egyptian (not verified)
Good Point
Fri, 2010/12/24 - 21:07You have the best point of view among all the replies
Best Regards
Anonymous (not verified)
hello im he person she write
Tue, 2011/02/08 - 09:40hello
im he person she write all this bullshit for .
im sorry to bothering you 2 , but she lier she from holland its fr1 ting , she living here not turest and she really so sick person
what was between us was we know each other for 2 months and she start to know me , and she never lose one pound with me , she have nothing at all to give me and i never asked her about anything coz we was like friends , and sex it was a mistake and i know it was mistake but i thinnk for ingle man 30 years if someone ask for sex lots of times i think i have an excuse to do even if i dont say im right , i know i was so wrong to do that and im really sorry for my self , but everybody do that not just me to attack me like that.
we know each other just for 2 months and i was so good with she and itt was the mistake coz when i start to show her there is no way to marry coz she cannot give me kids fr1 and secont coz she really have smething wrong in her mind . she start to attack me in facebook and all my friends and all my family
so plz dont belive all what ppl say and no body so bad like what she said we are normal ppl here in egypt . some from egyptian ppl bad and some good.
anyway just i want to show she is sick and lier
Anonymous (not verified)
I was romantically involved
Tue, 2011/01/04 - 10:18I was romantically involved with an Egytian man a few years ago. He worked in a resort in the tourist trade (selling trips) We did not continue our relationship and I married a man from my own country.
I kept contact with this man as friends and my husband also became acquainted. Each time we returned to Egypt for holidays we all always met up.
However, I am afraid to say my marriage has not lasted.
This Egyptian man has now moved to UAE to work. This is to try and better himself and to get out of the tourism trade due to the bad things that happen and are said.
He has asked me to visit the UAE as he still has feelings for me, with the chance of us rekindling our relationship and becoming husband and wife if it all works in the future. I have to admit that I do feel the same.
I would like to mention that he has never in the past or to date asked for anything from me such as money. He has also stated that we would not be able to be together physically without marriage.
The only concern I do have is that he has mentioned how his family wish him to marry Egyptian girl
Khalid
May work ...
Tue, 2011/01/04 - 10:25Since he left the tourism industry in Egypt, and was able to get a job abroad in the UAE, motives such as getting out of Egypt are no longer there. He is probably financially better off too working there than in Egypt so the money motive is not applicable too.
So maybe it can work ...
He can assess whether his family will accept a non-Egyptian girl or not. Probably it does not matter since you will be living in the UAE for a while.
Hannan (not verified)
I have just come back from
Thu, 2011/01/06 - 12:52I have just come back from Luxor with my husband and children, I cannot believe that these scams are still going on. But I have to say some of the british women are to blame. A woman name Catherine was constantly drunk, her antics were unbelievable, and she thinks she is married to a tour seller called Ashraf, someone told me he has a wife and children, obviously he is with her for money, but her friend told me she lives on social. I think he will soon run away from her when no money comes forth. Please ladies, Luxor is a wonderful place, go for the history and ignore all the attention from men, we British need to get back our dignity. Hannan.
Anonymous (not verified)
Do not Believe Him!!
Tue, 2011/03/08 - 19:07Same History!
these guys trying to take chances from every foreign girl they know!!!!saad...
will it matter if he has sex or not in the end you both can do it when non of you a virgin??
God Bless
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