A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
Isis (not verified)
My advice is that you are being scammed
Sat, 2011/10/29 - 06:07Sorry - this is the oldest scam in the book. Dump him before you are only left with emotional pain and an overdraft. He has groomed you for the financial kill and his family will be in on the scam as well.
By the way " ...... even though I'm not the kind that normally go to Luxor, (the older, overweight, bored, divorced, rich women), ... " - I didn't know that they were usual type of women that went to Luxor.
Anonymous (not verified)
Can anyone tell me if they
Sun, 2011/10/23 - 10:47Can anyone tell me if they know a man called Hany Fawzy Wahpy Fakhory from Luxor please?
Isis (not verified)
Check LCB
Mon, 2011/11/21 - 20:42Check "Liars, Cheats and Bastards" as I think he is listed on that site.
Anonymous (not verified)
Getting out of the army
Sun, 2011/10/23 - 16:12I dont think this is fair on you. Lots of men in Egypt have to do the army. My husband is there right now for the third time this year on reserve. He had to got there this time with a serious leg injury and still coundnt get out of it. there was a chance for him to reduce it by paying but we decided it was not worth it and it will soon be over. All this money being paid is not fair and sounds corrupt.
Anonymous (not verified)
Poor Egyptian men
Mon, 2011/10/24 - 09:03People must understand that Egyptians are poor by our standards. With the best will in the world they cannot afford to keep western women in the life they are used to. Even if he is a doctor or lawyer. Either you live a life of eating beans and bread and living in a tiny flat, if you are lucky or you have to accept that you will be providing the main income. It is not that Egyptian men are necessarily thieves it is just that they don't have the money. Most people live in £200 per month or less. So get real everyone and stop thinking it is all about ripping women off. If he loves you and you love him you will have to make decisions and that may mean you will have to spend money. It is up to you to realise whether he wants you just for your money or if he genuinely loves you. That is the difficulty. I say to my Egyptian husband, it is not the money that is important, its the relationship. If that is right nothing else matters.
Anonymous (not verified)
Thank you for your replies, I
Mon, 2011/10/24 - 11:20Thank you for your replies, I was just getting worried, as after reading a lot of the previous posts, people might have thought I was being an idiot! He went to his doctor, who he paid 8000LE to, for a certificate/report, about his back. He went twice to the court in Cairo, and now they are asking for 6000LE, deposit, by tomorrow, which he has texted me to say, he does not have. I'm not a gullible person, but can sometimes be too trusting, especially when I am in love with this man. My family are planning the wedding already! He has one older brother, who is married, with 2 children, and is a manager of hotel, and his Father, passed away over 10 years ago. He lives with his Mother, and the other family, all live in separate floors of the same house. As he works for one of the best hotels, he has always been propositioned by many wealthy ladies, I have been to Luxor 20 times, and have seen it with my own eyes, even around the pool, before I even went out with him, women were talking like he was their entertainment! Maybe I'm being jealous, or I may have good reason to be concerned, that's why I found this site, and my eyes have been opened! Well, there is only one thing I can do, and that's wait and see if he rings later, now he knows I won't be transferring any money....! Thanks again,xx
His lady (not verified)
Hi there...i wish u all the
Mon, 2011/10/24 - 18:05Hi there...i wish u all the best, and i hope your man is good and honest, i keep thinking of all the various different things my man had to pay out for to get all his old school and university certificates,, it didnt come cheap for him and he faced many brick walls,, but he got there and got his visa..and he is now over here in britain studying..i have my moments when i think he is using me..but then i think of all the things he has shared with me, about his relationship with his father...and his belief, and his hopes and plans for the future..and it restores my faith in him....
Anonymous (not verified)
Oh no, now I have my Egyptian
Mon, 2011/10/24 - 11:31Oh no, now I have my Egyptian friend telling me, that when a Western girl is taken into the home of a single Egyptian man, it does not mean she has been accepted, but for the family to see if its worth stringing her along to obtain money, and then he marries a Coptic virgin anyway!!AARRRGGGHHH!!! I'm so confused, maybe if I would have learnt the language, I wouldn't seem so stupid!! 8-(
Anonymous (not verified)
Marriage
Tue, 2011/10/25 - 22:09I have been in a relationship with an Egyptian Army Officer.... He has told me that he cannot marry a westerner..(from the armys rules)and if he did could lose his job and possibly go to military jail.He went through military college, so said if he resigned would not be effective immediately and could take along time til accepted.I have heard of some instances of marriage, but within specific countries. Is there accepted ones?.. He asks nothing of me.. he has money.. car.. and cant travel so no need to have me as a visa possibility. So it is love.. But need to know about the marriage thing.. Thanks for any info..
Ahmed Hassan Al... (not verified)
It's true, he can't marry a
Wed, 2011/10/26 - 06:28It's true, he can't marry a westerner while serving the army, the specific countries you are referring to are mostly Arabian counties and even then he has to run through whoops to get a permit, also, right now the Army is not gonna let go of any1 easily, as you know about the public safety situation in Egypt, the army does most of it so they need as many bodies as they could..
Is he a Muslim man or Coptic?? If he is a Muslim, there might be a solution but I'm not sure about it, ask him to find out if the army would allow him to marry a westerner if she was a Muslim, there might be an exception in this case but I'm not very sure..
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