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By Khalid on 2008/11/22 - 20:17, last updated 2008/12/28 - 15:53

A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.

Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.

Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.

So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.

The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:

Easy and Free Sex

Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.

A source for Money

Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.

An Opporunity for Immigration

Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.

Why it works?

There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.

One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.

Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.

Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.

Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.

Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.

Blacklists

Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.

  • An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
  • Wanted List of Egypt.
  • Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
  • KunstKamera blacklist.

Happens everywhere, not only Egypt

Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.

The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.

Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.

So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.

Final Thoughts

There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.

The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.

So, beware ... 

Further Reading

  • Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
  • Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
  • Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
  • Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
  • Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
  • Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
  • Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
  • List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
  • A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
  • Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
  • An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
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katrarina (not verified)

help me please

Sun, 2011/11/20 - 08:22

hi can any person help me with any information or do you know my egyptian boyfriend his name is hesham mohamed ali mohamed afendi he works in the tropitel hotel naama bay as a waiter i have just come back from egypt haveing spent a week with him he tells me he loves me wants to spend the rest of his life with me on my last day his friend tell me he has russian or ukraine wife and also italian girlfriendalso old english wife who he uses for money not to trust himhe is gigalo
i have read so many storys before i continue this relationship i have to be sure he is not one of these men so if you kno or have been out with him can you please email me or reply please i need to know

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Isis (not verified)

Re: help

Mon, 2011/11/21 - 20:39

If you were 100% sure that your boyfriend wasn't "one of these men" you wouldn't need to question his motives and post on this board. I can assure you and without even knowing him, that he IS "one of these men".

My advice is to take into careful consideration the information given by his friend and dump him fast before you lose your money and dignity. Stay true to your own instincts and if you have doubts then wise up and move on without this man.

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Sina (not verified)

Oh oh, I hope it is another

Sun, 2012/01/29 - 13:25

Oh oh, I hope it is another Hesham that I met....:-(
Could you send me your E-Mail- Adress?

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Sina (not verified)

Oh oh, I hope it is another

Sun, 2012/01/29 - 13:27

Oh oh, I hope it is another Hesham that I met....:-(
Could you send me your E-Mail- Adress?

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Sina (not verified)

I was out with one with this

Sun, 2012/01/29 - 13:34

I was out with one with this name.He told me, that what we have would be for long. But I only know the name Hesham Mohammed. If it´s him, he seems to enjoy his youth. ;-)

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Sina (not verified)

When you send me your

Sun, 2012/01/29 - 16:23

When you send me your E-Mail-adress-I have fotos-like this we will know. At least it is the same name, the hotel, but he told me he would be older. Yes, his birthday is in august.

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Lena (not verified)

Hesham Mohamed

Tue, 2012/01/31 - 20:21

I know him and I think you are right. Keep care.

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Ross (not verified)

BEWARE OF EGYPTIAN LOVERS........

Tue, 2011/12/06 - 10:12

FIRST OF ALL EGYPTIANS ARE A MIXED RACE AND IF U THINK YOU ARE SEEING SOMEONE FROM THE PHARONIC TIMES AND THE ALLURE IS GRIPPING YOUR MIND THEN READ UP THEIR HISTORY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE EGYPTANS OF TODAY R A TOTALLY MIXED RACE AND FAR FROM THE REAL AFRICAN EGYPTIANS.JUST THINK FOR URSELF WHERE THEY GOT THEIR GREEN AND BLUE EYES AND LIGHT SKIN AND CURLY BROWN HAIR.

MAJORITY BELONG TO THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS AND THE ACT OF DECEIT AND DISHONESTY COME NATURALLY TO THEM AS THEY HAVE SEEN IT ALL AND LIVED IT ALL - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFCOURSE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH FOREIGNERS. AND MORE SO BECAUSE ON THE OUTSIDE IT IS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY (ONE OF HIPPOCRISY I WOULD ADD).

I HAVE LIVED THERE AND HAVE FRIENDS TOO AND LET ME TELL YOU WITH ALL HONESTY. THEY VIE FOR WESTERN GIRLS FOR SEXUAL ADVENTURE AND BETTER STILL IF THEY CAN MARRY AND GO ABROAD. AND MORE OFTEN THAN NOT THEY WILL DUMP THEM TO FIND ANOTHER AND ALSO COME BACK HOME TO HAVE A VEILED GIRL BACK HOME IN EGYPT.

BE SMART ENOUGHT TO SEE THROUGH THEIR TRICKS AND DONT BECOME THEIR KEY TO ESCAPE TO A WESTERN COUNTRY. LET THEN AT BEST FIND SOME COUNTRY LIKE TURKEY WHERE THEY WILL FIND SOMETHING IN COMMON.

SO BEWARE........

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Isis (not verified)

Not always true

Fri, 2011/12/09 - 14:31

" ...MAJORITY BELONG TO THE LOWER MIDDLE CLASS AND THE ACT OF DECEIT AND DISHONESTY COME NATURALLY TO THEM AS THEY HAVE SEEN IT ALL AND LIVED IT ALL - WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OFCOURSE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH FOREIGNERS. AND MORE SO BECAUSE ON THE OUTSIDE IT IS AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY (ONE OF HIPPOCRISY I WOULD ADD)."

I disagree - the lower middle class have not "seen it all and lived it all". Egyptians of this class have very rarely left Egypt and travelled to the west because they cannot obtain visas to these countries. They have not experienced western culture and they are assuming that life in the west is what they see in movies. So, my question is - how have they "lived it all and seen it all? My up close and personal impression of Egyptians is that in a sense they are caught between traditional culture and the need to adopt modern western ways. In this cross culture they do not fully know how to handle the consequences of relationships outside of Islam and the acceptance of western culture.

To assume that most Egyptians are deceitful and dishonest speaks volumes for your appreciation of your Egyptian friends. Most Egyptians are hard working, friendly and honest. It is only those men who are involved in the tourism industry that tend to become gigalos and sexual predators. They are blinded by the easy life that they perceive that foreigners enjoy and want a part of it no matter how they get it. As you would know, corruption was/is rife amongst the upper echelons of power in Egypt and this filters through to those below who see it as an easy way to make money and better their lives. These men have a lazy disposition and are selfish. But this trait occurs all over the world where men con women to better themselves usually on dating sites, in night clubs etc. It also can happen when foreign women visit Spain, Italy, Greece and Egypt - just to name a few.

Whilst your warning is appreciated, your message is somewhat tainted with innacurate observations. If you claim that an Islamic society is a hippocratic one, then please also review some Christian faiths which can carry that label very well. It just doesn't happen in Egypt.

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Anonymous (not verified)

Mohamed Gouda Badr - Training Manager

Tue, 2011/12/13 - 14:54

Never ever ever trust him..
He is a huge liar.
He immediately says he wants to marry you - never believe.
He says he wants to have a family and children - never believe.
He says he wants a place where he can call - never believe.
Never believe, because he is saying these to lots of women at the same time.
He can seem nice, educated, smiling and kind. But he is nothing but a stuoid fool who is looking for a good country to settle down.
Ladies, I've been through this.
Stay away from this silly man.

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