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By Khalid on 2008/11/22 - 20:17, last updated 2008/12/28 - 15:53

A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.

Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.

Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.

So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.

The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:

Easy and Free Sex

Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.

A source for Money

Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.

An Opporunity for Immigration

Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.

Why it works?

There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.

One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.

Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.

Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.

Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.

Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.

Blacklists

Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.

  • An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
  • Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
  • Wanted List of Egypt.
  • Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
  • KunstKamera blacklist.

Happens everywhere, not only Egypt

Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.

The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.

Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.

So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.

Final Thoughts

There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.

The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.

So, beware ... 

Further Reading

  • Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
  • Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
  • Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
  • Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
  • Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
  • Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
  • Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
  • List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
  • A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
  • Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
  • An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
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Anonymous (not verified)

Egyptian

Sun, 2012/05/27 - 11:03

I am an Egyptian, I live in Cairo, one of my friends (FEMALE!) was assaulted beaten by your so revered military police simply while passing through Tahrir. Wonder if your husband had any part in that? 1 year of marriage and we are supposed to be jealous of you. 1 year is nothing. Quit bragging. Those who brag are insecure in their relationships. Those who are secure, don't come around bragging. Been around a lot longer than you dearie and seen many more corpses of the gigolo lovers like yourself along the way than successes. Get over yourself, your husband will sooner or later.

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Isis (not verified)

Re: Men in Luxor

Tue, 2012/04/17 - 22:45

"We are very happy and we have been together over one year now through revolution, recalls to the military no end of events"

Four points strike me about your post -

1. Your husband disappears to where? When Egyptians are in the military - that's it - they are in the military. No getting leave passes for when you want to play Mr Businessman. You have only been together for one year and there is still much that you need to learn about your man. I suspect that he has an Egyptian wife and children by that marriage that he needs to check in on periodically. Or is he off with other foreign wives? I advise you to seek the truth to this question for your own peace of mind.

2.Being a foreigner, there is absolutely no way in such a short time time that you could know everything that there is to know about Egypt. The culture is so diversified you could not possibly comprehend it all in 12 months. You are only believing what you are being told by your Egyptian husband when it suits him.

3. Do you know his business and how clever he really is? He may be more clever than you could imagine, especially in Luxor.

4. "I would also say take care if you do get involved that your boyfriend is not unduly religious. They are already getting a good deal and to expect you to change your beliefs for them is really not on." Why are the men getting a good deal?. The relationship should be a mutual connection and not based on who gets the most out of it. I suspect that you have invested money into this marriage and that is why he is a successful businessman in Luxor.

Whilst your warnings and are advice are worthwhile, your situation may not be as secure as you think. Please post back on here in another year as I see red flags in your relationship.

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joseph (not verified)

i do agree but not completely

Mon, 2012/04/16 - 17:41

i do agree with what you have said about those ppl working in tourism they really abuse tourists and foriengers but this is not a rule some of them are good ppl
i worked in tourism as a doctor and i saw manny examples
my advice to all tourists to think twice before you marry anyone working there most of them do want to have a chance to immigrate
alot of russans are married to egyptians and they live here
by the way im egyptian and not ashamed to tell the truth
thanx

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Anonymous (not verified)

How do you remove a comment?

Wed, 2012/04/18 - 02:22

How do you remove a comment? Thankyou!

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Anonymous (not verified)

This is ridiculous!!! I want

Sun, 2012/04/22 - 07:33

This is ridiculous!!! I want a comment removed, and no one will tell me how to do it!!! 8-(

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Isis (not verified)

Removing comment

Sun, 2012/04/22 - 20:15

Only Khalid can remove the comment as it his site and I would assume also that it would be removed only if you were the author. If the post has something to do with a Gigolo in Luxor it is in the best interest of women tourists visiting Luxor for it to stay on here as a warning.

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lynn (not verified)

hello can anyone translate

Mon, 2012/04/23 - 12:21

hello can anyone translate this for me please
قول لصحبك ابن ال... الاهطل انا هروح لل... مراتو

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Khalid

Translation

Mon, 2012/04/23 - 12:47

This means: "Tell your friend the idiot son of [...], that I will go to his [...] wife". Expletives deleted.

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lynn (not verified)

Tito has sent me this message

Mon, 2012/04/23 - 13:48

Tito has sent me this message on a phone i have been texting him on pretending to be a woman who wants him,i also have access to his contacts list on his emails and i have been getting info of women who know him ,soon i will have enough info to show my mum

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lynn (not verified)

and this مع السلامة يا

Mon, 2012/04/23 - 15:54

and this مع السلامة يا صحبى
and thisعطية الاص تيتو

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