A word of caution for female tourists visiting Egypt: be careful of the many of the men working in tourist areas in Egypt.
Although the vast majority of Egyptians have a high sense of honor and good conduct, it seems that tourist areas seem to attract a relatively high concentration of people with lax morals, who would exploit tourists in many ways. It can manifest itself as persistent aggressive begging, peddling cheap goods, charging 10X the normal prices for services and goods, and what this article focuses on: exploiting female tourists.
Looking at the bulk of the comments on my notes on compulsory army service in egypt they are mostly from non-Egyptian women who married (or intend to marry) an Egyptian man, and army service has become an obstacle.
So, once you here the word "habibti" (meaning "my love" in Arabic), and before you call him "Habibi", let alone go down the marriage route, read on below for more information.
The exploitation happens in many forms, but is normally centered around one of the following:
Easy and Free Sex
Many tourists come from countries where sex is more freely practiced outside of marriage. Youn g Egyptian men working in tourist areas who
are not married see this as an opportunity, and are met with acceptance from the female tourists.
A source for Money
Many Egyptian men who practice this scam view the "wealthy" tourist as a source of income. They keep asking their "girl friend", "fiance" or "wife" for money for various excuses, just like a professional scammer would play a confidence game on a victim.
An Opporunity for Immigration
Some of those men want to get out of Egypt, and see their marriage as a way to gain residence and citizenship in a Western country. The economy in Egypt has been stagnant for decades, and poverty, lack of opportunity and the high cost of marriage lures some youth to trying these tricks.
Why it works?
There are several factors that work in favor of the Egyptian scammers here.
One factor that helps is that most Egyptian men look desirable to Western women, being of darker complexion than their compatriots. The fact that the foreigners are white blonds work in making the women attractive and desirable for Egyptian men.
Another factor is that the woman is coming to the tourist place to have a good time. It may be a break from stressful work or study, or perhaps a past relationship. This helps blind her to what is happening.
Yet another factor is the cultural differences which also create temporary blindness.
Moreover, those workers being away from their village or city of origin, where they would be observed by their extended family and friends tend to make it easier for them to engage in sexual relationships and scams without being scrutinized by acquaintenaces, and no stigma is attached to these behaviors.
Finally, the scammers have perfected their techniques over the years, and are very skillful at what they do.
Blacklists
Blacklists have emerged on the internet, to warn potential female tourists from known exploiters. These have all the faults of user contributed content on the internet in that they can be innacurate, biased, or even rigged by rivals or pranksters. However, in the absence of any other information, they can be useful, provided they are taken with a good deal of skepticism and research and common sense applied.
- An overview article on what a "black list" is, at Arabia.pl.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Hurghada, in English.
- Dezy House: Blacklist for Sharm El Sheikh, in English.
- Wanted List of Egypt.
- Egyptian Blacklist on Topix.
- KunstKamera blacklist.
Happens everywhere, not only Egypt
Before someone gets the impression that Egypt is a cesspool, and Egyptians are crooks, let me say it is neither.
The problem above is not limited to Egypt by any means. Any country where tourists come in to spend money has its share of exploiters. The above black lists have a Turkish one, and a Tunisian one, and there are lots of stories about French, Italian and Spanish men exploiting women tourists as well.
Of course, there is also the Russian bride fraud targeting well to do men in the West.
So, the problem is universal, although this article focuses on female tourists to Egypt.
Final Thoughts
There are many non-Egyptian women married to Egyptian men happily, so over-generalizing from the cases mentioned, or from workers at tourist resort is wrong. Chances are you will be happy with an Egyptian as a husband if you met him in a more natural settings, e.g. while studying or working, and getting to meet his family as well.
The "artificial" environment in resorts, being on holiday, and surrounded by some scammers lend itself to the disasters described.
So, beware ...
Further Reading
- Marwa Rakha: Relationship Warning: Do not get involved with Egyptian Men (also here).
- Global Voices: "Beware of Egyptian Men" says Canadian Embassy, also by Marwa Rakha.
- Trailing Grouse: Egyptian men marrying women for money.
- Yahoo Answers: Egyptian Men marrying foreign women to get out from Egypt.
- Sex, Sun, Stupidity and Gigolos.
- Amy Robson: n English girl who keeps falling in false love with Egyptian men (she finally returned to Britain).
- Someone searching on KunstKamera: for Honest Egyptian Boys?
- List if sites on Romance Fraud in German, and other languages.
- A movie documentary in the making on holiday romance, specially Hurghada.
- Female Sex Tourism on Wikipedia, has lots of links to extensive articles. While Turkey is listed as a major destination, Egypt, Tunisia, and Morocco are listed as "minor destinations".
- An article from a Canadian perspective: Sex tourism in full boom. Jamaica, Barbados, Dominican Republic and the Caribbean are the major destination for Canadian women.
Comments
Isis (not verified)
Sorry - can't help much with man
Mon, 2012/06/11 - 19:37Hi there - I have seen the man you have described at the Nile Palace and yes, I have seen him chatting up women. The staff at the Wellbeing centre and the pool area have changed recently so it appears that there has been a clean out of staff. To be safe, just avoid him at all costs.
Anonymous (not verified)
Please stop with the rubbish
Wed, 2012/06/13 - 20:35Please stop with the rubbish about Hany! Enough is enough, innocent people are being named and shamed because of womens lies as they can't stand the humiliation when they are turned down!
Isis (not verified)
Lies & rubbish!
Thu, 2012/06/14 - 19:46Comments on here about "Hany" and others like him are certainly not lies and rubbish. It appears that you need to open your eyes as you will certainly be his next "victim". These gigolos are convinced that by scamming and conning foreign women they are assured of an easy lifestyle without much effort. Sorry, but you need a reality check and rather quickly!
Anonymous (not verified)
I have asked Khalid to remove
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 09:21I have asked Khalid to remove the comments about Hany, as they are untrue. And the person that used all this personal information has been dealt with. When women lie to make themselves look like they are the victim, and then say sorry for causing any problems, and found it amusing because they live in England, and cause him trouble in Egypt for their own twisted laughs, then yes, one feels like a fool, for disbelieving the man she loves and taking the advice of women she does not even know, just that they have been to Luxor, and say they know of this man doing these things. Again, I will ask Khalid to remove the families details, as that was a low blow thing to do, and as I said, the person responsible, has been dealt with. So, its the decision I choose to make, be it for whatever you experienced pro's of Luxor tourism think, there are men and women out there who need your advice, but i want this innocent mans details removed now please.
Isis (not verified)
You know Hany? tell me more,
Sun, 2012/09/30 - 15:46You know Hany? tell me more, and i can tell you about Emad. ;-)
Isis (not verified)
Are you seeing Emad or Hany,
Tue, 2012/10/02 - 15:15Are you seeing Emad or Hany, I am intrigued?
Anonymous (not verified)
Sounds like the person who
Thu, 2012/06/14 - 08:30Sounds like the person who wrote in defence of Hany is well and truly under his spell. The information posted regarding Hany by his former fiance makes explict reference to the money she had willingly given him for his various causes. She even admits that he was over charging her for rent etc. Is this rubbish? Perhaps someone is in denial.
Everything contained within this forum is a matter of opinion and everyone is free to express their view (thanks to Khalid) and engage in meaningful discussion. Of course it could also be used as an instrument of deceit by some, helping to spin lies etc. Liars, Cheats and Bastards.com is exemplary of this. It's hard to tell who's story is genuine these days.
I think a good story always has some element of truth within it, how to determine what is the truth and what is not is perhaps a matter for the heart and not the mind. For all those women who defend the men that blatantly exploit them for all they can, listen to your heart.
My understanding is that is customary for Egyptian men to provide for their women and not the other way round. Regardless of religion. If I was a man I would feel very bad about myself if my wife/fiancé was supporting me financially. If I was prostitute however, I'm sure the bad feelings would pass and after all, business is business.
So, whether truth or lies, or somewhere in between - the post on here make useful reading for us all, and could actually save someone from allot of pain and humiliation. There are good and bad in every society, and I believe that in world of misunderstanding truth and love will prevail, however it doesn't hurt to keep your eyes wide open...thankfully this forum helps with this.
Anonymous (not verified)
The owners of the properties
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 15:14The owners of the properties confirmed the price of the stay as what was paid. It was agents commission. These women made out that the extra money was creamed for personal gain. One even said she was pregnant, er, at 60? I found out from a facebook search, shes a married grandmother from Manchester, who stayed at Palace with her friend, and had sex with 2 different men during her holiday, why the fxxk would he touch that! Come on, these women are notorious for it, theres even photos of them with the boatman and waiter from Palace, but amazingly, nothing on him! Well now, shes had to tell her husband what shes been up to! So, an innocent mans name, yet again, is being publicly shamed, cos of these lying old slags. And i'll name and shame the both of them on that other site, they are disgusting!
Isis (not verified)
Takes 2 to tango
Sun, 2012/06/17 - 19:49Amazing how you see that the women are to blame and HE is totally innocent. Makes you really, really wonder WHY he went with these women and how much it cost them. Wake up!
Anonymous (not verified)
He is innocent Isis! I was
Mon, 2012/06/18 - 02:34He is innocent Isis! I was stupid to believe these women, they only said it because he turned them down, one of them admitted it, and begged for me not to tell her husband! I asked why she could lie like this, and the answer, she was embarassed when she offered herself to him and he said no! Now, why doesn't Khalid remove the families names? The person had no right to put them up!
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