Is it just me, or did someone else notice?
Initially, after seeing "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer Stone", and "The Fellowship of the Ring", I thought there are too many similarities between them to be coincidental.
After seeing "The Chamber of Secrets", and reading a bit about "The Prisoner of Azkaban", I saw "Lord of the Rings" trilogy again at home on DVD.
I thought that there was a lot of borrowing that J.K. Rowling did from J.R.R. Tolkien.
Let us see a list of similarities:
Similarity | Lord of the Rings | Harry Potter |
---|---|---|
Villian | Sauron is the head of evil. He lost his power, and needs the ring to gain it all back | Voldemort is also a vanquished evil wizard. He needs the Sorcerer's Stone in order to gain his strength back |
Unlikely Hero | Frodo Baggins is a Hobbit, a peaceful -- almost childish -- and weak race. He is entrusted with the task of saving the world from great evil | Harry is an 11 year orphan who does much the same |
Special Object | The One Ring is the object that the hero must prevent the villian from getting, so as to regain his full powers | The Sorcerer's Stone is the same |
Mentor/Protector | Gandalf is a guiding, helping, mentoring, teaching figure for Frodo | Professor Dumbledore is the same in the Harry Potter series |
Troll | In the Fellowship of the Ring, the Orcs have a Cave Troll with them, and in The Two Towers, the Cave Trolls open the gates of Mordor | In Harry Potter II, there is a Mountain Troll, whom Harry and his friends have to overpower |
Giant Spider | Shelob is a giant spider that almost kills and eats Frodo, in The Return of the King | In the forest, there is a talking spider. It is a friend of Hagred, but chases Harry wanting to eat him |
Giant raptor bird | A giant eagle saves Gandalf from Isengard | In the Prisoner of Azkaban, Buckbeak is a giant raptor helping Harry and friends |
Dragon | In the Hobbit, the prelude to The Lord of the Rings, the dragon Smaug is Bilbo Baggins adversary | In Harry Potter Chamber of Secrets, there is a dragon like reptilian monster, the Basilisk, whom Harry has to slay |
Goblins | The goblins are one of the races of evil allying with Sauron and Saruman | There are goblins who run the bank. They are physically similar to the other ones, although mostly benign |
Sidekick "Creature" | In Lord of the Ring, Gollum is a creature with both dual good and evil personalities. He helps Frodo in his quest | Dobby is a house elf who is both a hinderance and helpful at different times |
Of course, J.K. Rowling has a lot of original ideas of her own, such as the concept of muggles, and the game of Quiddich.
My opinion is that she borrowed too many themes to be a coincidence. For sure she was "inspired" by Tolkien's Lord of the Ring, at least partially.
After writing this page, I found the following links that ponder some of the points above:
- "Stone" and "Ring" look like 2 pages out of Same Spell-book
- Wikipedia article has a brief mention of similarities.
- A web page listing the similarities between Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings going into character details.
Comments
Anonymous (not verified)
well...
Thu, 2009/01/08 - 12:08I wouldn't call it stealing. It's all just Norse Mythology. Fantasy is fantasy. Dragons, wise wizards and objects of immortality predated Tolkien as well.
Anonymous (not verified)
I've read both books and I
Sat, 2009/01/31 - 16:23I've read both books and I must say started to write a book of the same genre; but I have enough of imagination not to steal or borrow ideas from other authors. I think highly of Tolkien and his works, and he has inspired many, but not many got rich on it, did they? Tolkien borrow from other myths, he knew all those myth's before writing LOTR and Rowling did nothing of that. My friends told me she is an original author, but I say if your interested in a new Tolkien they you should start reading P.Pullmans work.
Anonymous (not verified)
pullman=militant atheist;
Tue, 2009/05/05 - 00:17pullman=militant atheist; Tolkien= a deeply devout Catholic.
thats a big no
Anonymous (not verified)
REALLY??
Tue, 2009/03/24 - 02:35To tell the truth many books follow Tolkiens story, I mean look at what catergory that you put those characters in. Villian, Hero, Sidekick, Mentor etc. Many books have these things, like how else does a fantasy story go.
Anonymous (not verified)
From an Attempt at a
Sun, 2009/05/10 - 20:45I love the Harry Potter series and I've seen all of the Lord of the Rings movies, first when I was very young and then again in highschool. When I watched the movies the second time, I couldn't help sitting there and saying to myself "Oh my gosh Harry Potter IS Lord of the Rings!" And I apologize for any of these things that are incorrect because I've only seen the movies... It's simply my interpretation from my own knowledge.
I know that many of the elements in both of the books are common in fiction, ex. dark lords, underdog heroes, ect... And while some point out the differences in detail between the two, I think that the real similarities are in how each of those elements interact with other characters and the plot.
While Voldemort and Saruman are powerful and evil rulers of a particular domain, (an extremely common foe in fiction), there are more specific things that make them the same. Both are looking specifically for the main character, (or the thing tied to him, in Frodo's case), because if they are not eliminated, the life or spirit of the villain may cease to exist in one way or another. The hero is the only person at that point who can defeat them. Also, Saruman is relying on an object, (the One Ring), to return him to power as he is only a spirit without it. Voldemort is also only a spirit without his Horcruxes.
In addition, the beginnings of the main series are alike in that they both start with the main protagonist's birthday. This, as well, is common in almost all books. But you should take the time to realize that more exactly, this birthday is a huge turning point in the character's life because it introduces them to an entire world or concept they never knew existed. Frodo is brought into the legend of the rings by Gandalf on the night of his birthday and must immediately set out on a quest to a far away place. Harry is introduced to the world of wizardry by Hagrid on the night of his birthday and must immediately leave to prepare for his adventure at the magical Hogwarts school. After the characters learn of these things, Frodo is given the One Ring and Harry is given the invisibility cloak as well as his school "supplies," (Frodo obtains his directly afterwards, Harry a few months later).
Of course there are the more minor, more common similarities such as Merry and Pippin / Fred and George, Dobbie / Gollum, the locket/ the ring... And there's also the fact that many of these things at the root are taken from myth and legend; but I personally find that there is much too much the same about Rowling's interpretation of these myths and common elements and that of Tolkien. Yes, there are these similarities between all fiction novels/series, but if this wasn't significant I do not believe that it would be so much more heavily noticed, even despite popularity. If the question is whether or not Rowling borrowed from Tolkien, I have to say yes.
Anonymous (not verified)
Very few of the things on
Wed, 2009/05/20 - 23:18Very few of the things on those list are differences in dramatic structure. The fact that both Dobby and Smeagol are pitiful creatures who can sometimes be helpful is not a valid comparison. Yes, they may look a bit similar in appearance but the ultimate test of whether it was simply "ripped off" is whether they both serve the same function in the story. Gollum is a vile, greedy, corrupted creature who wants to gain power from the Ring. Dobby is trying to HELP Harry and has no intention of doing anything otherwise.
The only comparisons you made that serve similar functions in the story are the Sauron/Voldemort, Frodo/Harry, Gandalf/Dumbledore, Aragog/Shelon and the goblins.
The One Ring is not loads similar to the Philosopher's Stone. The Ring is a dark object that will corrupt the owner. The Sorceror's Stone can be corrupting if it falls into the wrong hands but for the most part, it is an innocent object that is perfectly harmless if used for the right reasons. Nicholas Flamel kept the Stone for hundreds of years. Nothing happened to him.
And frankly, JRR Tolkien was not the first person to write about dragons, trolls and goblins.
Anonymous (not verified)
simalarities
Thu, 2009/06/04 - 21:07the only big similarities worth mentioning are these:
Gandalf and Dumbldor are very similar characters;
Gandalf is a powerful wizard that helps Frodo,
Dumbldor is less powerful than Gandalf (according to some) and helps Harry
Sauron and Voldemort:
sauron is an almost unknown villain that has tied his soul to an object (the Ring)
voldemort is also almost completely unknown (at least up to the 4th book) and has also tied his soul to objects (his 7 horuxes)
both have big man-eating spiders
Gollum and Dobby are both small very skinny characters but their rolls in the stories are completely different
The rest of the similarities are too small or are in many other books to be actual similarities
Both series are my favorites and i have practically memorized the movies
Anonymous (not verified)
LOL
Thu, 2009/06/04 - 21:09both Sauron and Voldemort are called the "dark lord" and "Him"
Devoted Potter Fan (not verified)
blimey!!! i think you are
Wed, 2009/06/17 - 00:46blimey!!! i think you are reading a little too much into things, there are thousands of books and movies relating to fantasy as J.K has told it! I dont think it is a valid arguement because by the sounds of it you have watched the movies, and not read the books! if you read the books things will become a lot clearer especially from th 6th onwards where you see the bigger picture and the PHILOSOPHERS stone is small not the main weapon of power restoration!!!
Slim Shady (not verified)
JK. Rowling is extremely lazy, borrowed way too much.
Sat, 2009/06/20 - 10:05LOTR: LONGBOTTOM-PIPE-WEED
ROWLING:LONGBOTTOM- CHARACTER
DUMBLEDORE- IN LOTR, FLYING INSECT
DUMBLEDORE, WELL, EVERYONE KNOWS WHO THAT IS...
INVISIBILITY: CLOAK
INVISIBILITY: RING
ANNOYING RELATIVES- SACKVILLE-BAGGINSES
ANNYOING RELATIVES- DURSLEYS
OLD FOREST-FORBIDDEN FOREST
TUNNEL LEADING TO DANGER- CIRITH UNGOL, WHOMPING WILLOW
MIRROR OF GALADRIEL: CAN SHOW WANT ONE WANTS TO SEE, MIRROR OF ERSIED & PENSIEVE, DO THE SAME
Concept the Dark Lord
Cannot Comprehend,
Ultimately Used Against Him
ONE RINGS DESTRUCTION, LOVE
~SLIM SHADY
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